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Religion and Ethics Discussion => Christian Topic => Topic started by: Nearly Sane on November 07, 2024, 07:38:05 PM
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Damning, utterly damning
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cje0y3gqw1po
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Apologies aren't enough - the organisation failed and surely someone in the CofE should accept responsibility and resign.
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Pressure on Welby to resign
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yx90q0v31o
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Quite apart from Smyth's appalling abuse, the whole idea of these elitist camps, taking boys by invitation only from major public schools - not any old public schools, just the top ones like Eton and Winchester - is deeply un-Christian.
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I was talking to someone today who says that Welby is likely to be removed by the end of the week as he hasn't been honest about the way he has dealt with this terrible abuse. Although they don't live in the UK they are in a position to know what goes on in the CofE.
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I was talking to someone today who says that Welby is likely to be removed by the end of the week as he hasn't been honest about the way he has dealt with this terrible abuse. Although they don't live in the UK they are in a position to know what goes on in the C/E.
Anyone got an idea on how you remove an ABoC?
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Anyone got an idea on how you remove an ABoC?
Paraquat in the communion wine?
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Paraquat in the communion wine?
Maybe Charles says 'Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?'
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Maybe Charles says 'Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?'
What, and get rid of the news story that's keeping his charges to the NHS off the front pages?
O.
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What, and get rid of the news story that's keeping his charges to the NHS off the front pages?
O.
I suspect Welby will be gone without him but in case anyone is wondering what Outrider is referring to I presume it is this, as mentioned in the thread, second link,
https://archive.vn/QVSKu
https://www.religionethics.co.uk/index.php?topic=22244.0
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And he's gone, though it hardly deals with the disgrace of how the CoE handled this.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/archbishop-canterbury-justin-welby-resign-john-smyth-abuse-scandal-b1193558.html
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Don't think he had much choice - time to detach the C of E from their privileged role in state politics, especially given the decline of Christianity in general and let them swim along with all the other religious groups. Had to laugh at one bishop claiming they were the 'national' church when, as their name implies, there aren't.
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Welby's statement. Feels off to me by trying to excuse himself too much
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq6lzeel2e8o
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Welby's statement. Feels off to me by trying to excuse himself too much
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq6lzeel2e8o
His last sentence is fucking nonsense: not my 'hope'. Why on earth do these people assume that their nonsensical beliefs apply to the rest of us by default.
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His last sentence is fucking nonsense: not my 'hope'. Why on earth do these people assume that their nonsensical beliefs apply to the rest of us by default.
He's sort of obliged to add that stuff.
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He's sort of obliged to add that stuff.
True - but that it's headline news is plain silly: I can't imagine many of my fellow citizens of Bearsden & Milngavie give a flying fuck about what a soon to be ex-cleric in the C of E says about him failing to put people first when he could have done.
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True - but that it's headline news is plain silly: I can't imagine many of my fellow citizens of Bearsden & Milngavie give a flying fuck about what a soon to be ex-cleric in the C of E says about him failing to put people first when he could have done.
I've not ever been desperately bothered about the CoE being established but I don't see how they can deal with this while remaining established. It's not a good deal for them.
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And there's more
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwydgjevx70o
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And there's more
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwydgjevx70o
The article has been considerably updated since I first posted it. I'm not sure the approach being taken by the CoE can work.
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George Carey resigns as a priest over his and the CoE's failings.Tragic mess
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly2714wgdno
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George Carey resigns as a priest over his and the CoE's failings.Tragic mess
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly2714wgdno
He's still a priest, just not an active one. He is, after all, 90.
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He's still a priest, just not an active one. He is, after all, 90.
https://youtu.be/gq8xEEdMdBc?si=xNiIERGoyWqpEL2O
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I doubt saying how difficult it was for him is going to play well for Cottrell
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz7qpdl4jdyo
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There does not seem to be any conception by Cottrell of the suffering of those abused
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c20kkz06ngeo
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Quite incredible
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c89y9g83e92o
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Quite incredible
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c89y9g83e92o
What do we want? I cannot see that reporting this to the police was him covering up anything. What exactly what a QC doing as part of the CofE clergy?
He himself, did all he could by reporting it to the police. If not an abuser, then why did he have to resign if he reported it to the police. Was it the fact as a QC it would make any case her took on for abuse be found unsafe?
Could the police and justice system be at fault here, What the Bishop actually do if the police decided no action should be taken?
The abusers are the only ones at fault here. If the police covered the QC then it is a legal matter and why is no one asking the police and even the legal system?
We have heard so much about abuse but the sickening fact, is people like Cliff Richard, who did nothing at all was falsely accused and no one thought about the mental and physical abuse it caused him. Suffering can be caused to the innocent too. Now it is time to ensure those told who do nothing to report to the police, then action should be taken against them if they knew.,
Sick of all this abuse thing. If you are well liked and rise to the top someone is going to try and drag you down even if, in like Cliffs case, it isn't true.
People, would have believed it. Wonder if you will think and ask yourself, what if you were accused? What would you feel knowing you were innocent.
The world can have evil because of what humans do. But unless we seek truth in these matters it becomes like a witch hunt. But the witches were not witches, just innocent people accused and found guilty. In their case young women lost their lives. Especially epileptic and people with deformities.