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Title: Israel targets Iran's nuclear sites and military commanders in major attack
Post by: Nearly Sane on June 13, 2025, 07:17:06 AM
Because it's all been so peaceful of late

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c93ydeqyq71t
Title: Re: Israel targets Iran's nuclear sites and military commanders in major attack
Post by: Roses on June 13, 2025, 03:41:43 PM
Quote from: Nearly Sane on June 13, 2025, 07:17:06 AM
Because it's all been so peaceful of late

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c93ydeqyq71t

The conflict between Israel and Iran is getting worse and worse. Hopefully both sides will see sense before the situation is totally out of control.
Title: Re: Israel targets Iran's nuclear sites and military commanders in major attack
Post by: Aruntraveller on June 13, 2025, 04:17:12 PM
Quote from: Roses on June 13, 2025, 03:41:43 PM
The conflict between Israel and Iran is getting worse and worse. Hopefully both sides will see sense before the situation is totally out of control.

I admire your optimism, but we are talking about Netanyahu and Iran. I fear no good will come of this.
Title: Re: Israel targets Iran's nuclear sites and military commanders in major attack
Post by: Roses on June 13, 2025, 04:25:23 PM
Quote from: Aruntraveller on June 13, 2025, 04:17:12 PM
I admire your optimism, but we are talking about Netanyahu and Iran. I fear no good will come of this.

So do I. :(
Title: Re: Israel targets Iran's nuclear sites and military commanders in major attack
Post by: ad_orientem on June 13, 2025, 06:16:19 PM
No tears for Iran. It can do one as far as I'm concerned.
Title: Re: Israel targets Iran's nuclear sites and military commanders in major attack
Post by: Steve H on June 15, 2025, 12:10:11 PM
Israel is clearly a theofascist, warmongering rogue state. Why are Western democracies still defending it?
Title: Re: Israel targets Iran's nuclear sites and military commanders in major attack
Post by: Aruntraveller on June 15, 2025, 12:37:08 PM
Quote from: Steve H on June 15, 2025, 12:10:11 PM
Israel is clearly a theofascist, warmongering rogue state. Why are Western democracies still defending it?

Because they perceive the alternatives as being worse options is my best guess.
Title: Re: Israel targets Iran's nuclear sites and military commanders in major attack
Post by: Aruntraveller on June 15, 2025, 05:38:32 PM
Sobering read:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jun/15/trump-netanyahu-khamenei-three-angry-old-men
Title: Re: Israel targets Iran's nuclear sites and military commanders in major attack
Post by: Anchorman on June 15, 2025, 10:44:54 PM
Quote from: Roses on June 13, 2025, 03:41:43 PM
The conflict between Israel and Iran is getting worse and worse. Hopefully both sides will see sens e before the situation is totally out of control.
   
The triumph of hope over experience.
Title: Re: Israel targets Iran's nuclear sites and military commanders in major attack
Post by: The Accountant, OBE, KC on June 16, 2025, 02:23:36 PM
Quote from: Aruntraveller on June 15, 2025, 05:38:32 PM
Sobering read:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jun/15/trump-netanyahu-khamenei-three-angry-old-men
Yeah I'm with the ordinary people of Iran - given Ali Khamenei's support for police brutality against Iranian protestors, a lot of Iranians may be happy that the key Iranian leaders have been killed.

ETA link: https://www.irishtimes.com/world/middle-east/2025/06/13/iranians-react-to-israels-strikes-with-anger-and-fear-we-cant-afford-not-to-respond/

Israel's missile strikes into Iran seems even more reason for any future leaders of Iran to pursue nuclear weapons unless they want to become like Libya or Iraq and be at the mercy of regime-change by the US and its allies.
Title: Re: Israel targets Iran's nuclear sites and military commanders in major attack
Post by: Nearly Sane on June 16, 2025, 03:08:21 PM
Quote from: The Accountant, OBE, KC on June 16, 2025, 02:23:36 PM
Yeah I'm with the ordinary people of Iran - given Ali Khamenei's support for police brutality against Iranian protestors, a lot of Iranians may be happy that the key Iranian leaders have been killed.

ETA link: https://www.irishtimes.com/world/middle-east/2025/06/13/iranians-react-to-israels-strikes-with-anger-and-fear-we-cant-afford-not-to-respond/

Israel's missile strikes into Iran seems even more reason for any future leaders of Iran to pursue nuclear weapons unless they want to become like Libya or Iraq and be at the mercy of regime-change by the US and its allies.
The thing that comes across there is the utter weariness of the people.
Title: Re: Israel targets Iran's nuclear sites and military commanders in major attack
Post by: Spud on June 18, 2025, 02:54:56 PM
My thoughts so far are:
I understand that the Iranian regime is oppressive, but  if they are standing firm against Israeli/US aggression does that help the Palestinians in Gaza?
Title: Re: Israel targets Iran's nuclear sites and military commanders in major attack
Post by: Nearly Sane on June 19, 2025, 07:15:16 AM
Quote from: Spud on June 18, 2025, 02:54:56 PM
My thoughts so far are:
I understand that the Iranian regime is oppressive, but  if they are standing firm against Israeli/US aggression does that help the Palestinians in Gaza?
How?
Title: Re: Israel targets Iran's nuclear sites and military commanders in major attack
Post by: Nearly Sane on June 19, 2025, 07:31:47 AM

"Israeli hospital suffers 'extensive damage' from Iranian missile strike" -  i have a feeling that Trump may talk/post about this as a turning point in what he decides to do.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/israel-s-military-warns-people-to-evacuate-the-area-around-iran-s-arak-heavy-water-reactor/ar-AA1GZEX1
Title: Re: Israel targets Iran's nuclear sites and military commanders in major attack
Post by: Spud on June 19, 2025, 08:17:54 AM
Quote from: Nearly Sane on June 19, 2025, 07:15:16 AM
How?
Iran could agree to stop uranium enrichment on the condition that Israel/US agrees to a two- state solution.
Title: Re: Israel targets Iran's nuclear sites and military commanders in major attack
Post by: ekim on June 19, 2025, 03:05:23 PM
.... meanwhile in cyderspace .....
https://tinyurl.com/5n8zw83z
Title: Re: Israel targets Iran's nuclear sites and military commanders in major attack
Post by: ekim on June 19, 2025, 03:09:57 PM
.... and Israel's position in the 'nuclear' world .....
https://tinyurl.com/5a432cm5
Title: Re: Israel targets Iran's nuclear sites and military commanders in major attack
Post by: Nearly Sane on June 22, 2025, 01:29:52 AM
And US bombs Iran


https://www.rte.ie/news/world/2025/0622/1519709-us-iran-attack/
Title: Re: Israel targets Iran's nuclear sites and military commanders in major attack
Post by: Roses on June 22, 2025, 08:57:05 AM
Quote from: Nearly Sane on June 22, 2025, 01:29:52 AM
And US bombs Iran


https://www.rte.ie/news/world/2025/0622/1519709-us-iran-attack/

What you would expect of that idiot Trump. I bet he hasn't properly considered what action Iran might take in response!
Title: Re: Israel targets Iran's nuclear sites and military commanders in major attack
Post by: Nearly Sane on June 22, 2025, 08:59:03 AM
Quote from: Nearly Sane on June 22, 2025, 01:29:52 AM
And US bombs Iran


https://www.rte.ie/news/world/2025/0622/1519709-us-iran-attack/
And Starmer sees it as alleviating the.threat of Iran developing nuclear weapons


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq53l41gl8jo
Title: Re: Israel targets Iran's nuclear sites and military commanders in major attack
Post by: Nearly Sane on June 22, 2025, 11:50:50 AM
Quote from: Roses on June 22, 2025, 08:57:05 AM
What you would expect of that idiot Trump. I bet he hasn't properly considered what action Iran might take in response!
I think he doesn't really care.
Title: Re: Israel targets Iran's nuclear sites and military commanders in major attack
Post by: Roses on June 22, 2025, 01:53:43 PM
Quote from: Nearly Sane on June 22, 2025, 11:50:50 AM
I think he doesn't really care.

You are probably right.
Title: Re: Israel targets Iran's nuclear sites and military commanders in major attack
Post by: Nearly Sane on June 22, 2025, 01:58:45 PM
Quote from: Roses on June 22, 2025, 01:53:43 PM
You are probably right.
The calculation is that Israel through their actions over the last two years have sufficiently degraded Iran's capability to resist. Given Trump is better informed on this than either you or I, then I would guess he has been taken into account what their possible actions are, and he thinks it's worth it.
Title: Re: Israel targets Iran's nuclear sites and military commanders in major attack
Post by: Nearly Sane on June 22, 2025, 07:41:23 PM
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Title: Re: Israel targets Iran's nuclear sites and military commanders in major attack
Post by: Nearly Sane on June 23, 2025, 12:53:54 PM
'I don't say it's not legitimate' squealed David Lammy as another fence pole slipped up his anal passage 


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c20pw5rrn0zo
Title: Re: Israel targets Iran's nuclear sites and military commanders in major attack
Post by: Nearly Sane on June 23, 2025, 08:11:07 PM
What seem to be mainly performative strikes from Iran on US bases. There seems at least a possibility of the US and Iran coming to some form of settlement but what does Isreal want here. Regime change is not a guaranteed good outcome.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdjxdgjpd48o
Title: Re: Israel targets Iran's nuclear sites and military commanders in major attack
Post by: Nearly Sane on June 24, 2025, 06:57:52 AM
So a ceasefire supposedly but no comment from Israel


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cn7ze4vmk2pt
Title: Re: Israel targets Iran's nuclear sites and military commanders in major attack
Post by: Nearly Sane on June 24, 2025, 07:23:41 AM
Quote from: Nearly Sane on June 24, 2025, 06:57:52 AM
So a ceasefire supposedly but no comment from Israel


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cn7ze4vmk2pt
And now they have agreed to it.
Title: Re: Israel targets Iran's nuclear sites and military commanders in major attack
Post by: Nearly Sane on June 24, 2025, 09:39:12 AM
Though now Israel saying Iran has violated ceasefire. I'm off to play 99 Balloons
Title: Re: Israel targets Iran's nuclear sites and military commanders in major attack
Post by: Nearly Sane on June 24, 2025, 10:46:56 AM
Now Iran accusing Isreal of breaking ceasefire.
Title: Re: Israel targets Iran's nuclear sites and military commanders in major attack
Post by: Dicky Underpants on June 24, 2025, 10:55:51 AM
Quote from: Nearly Sane on June 24, 2025, 10:46:56 AM
Now Iran accusing Isreal of breaking ceasefire.
Fucking demented infants.
Title: Re: Israel targets Iran's nuclear sites and military commanders in major attack
Post by: ad_orientem on June 24, 2025, 12:18:49 PM
Quote from: Nearly Sane on June 23, 2025, 08:11:07 PM
Regime change is not a guaranteed good outcome.

Not guaranteed, no. Still, any other regime is likely to be better than one that helped Assad bomb its own people and now sends drones and missiles to russia to kill Ukrainians.
Title: Re: Israel targets Iran's nuclear sites and military commanders in major attack
Post by: Nearly Sane on June 24, 2025, 12:38:08 PM
Trump putting them both on the naughty step, and swearing at them


https://youtu.be/lhO6nq8j-dw?si=LzxrPwK25qm73PLv
Title: Re: Israel targets Iran's nuclear sites and military commanders in major attack
Post by: Nearly Sane on June 25, 2025, 01:31:25 PM
Quote from: Nearly Sane on June 24, 2025, 12:38:08 PM
Trump putting them both on the naughty step, and swearing at them


https://youtu.be/lhO6nq8j-dw?si=LzxrPwK25qm73PLv
Daddy Trump

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/nato-chief-heaps-praise-on-trump-at-summit-after-us-president-cast-doubt-on-commitment-to-collective-defence/ar-AA1Hnla6

Ffs!
Title: Re: Israel targets Iran's nuclear sites and military commanders in major attack
Post by: Nearly Sane on June 26, 2025, 10:09:51 AM
And now Trump to rescue Netanyahu from his corruption charges.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/witch-hunt-trump-calls-for-cancellation-of-netanyahu-s-corruption-trial/ar-AA1HqVEm
Title: Re: Israel targets Iran's nuclear sites and military commanders in major attack
Post by: Roses on June 26, 2025, 10:33:50 AM
Quote from: Nearly Sane on June 26, 2025, 10:09:51 AM
And now Trump to rescue Netanyahu from his corruption charges.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/witch-hunt-trump-calls-for-cancellation-of-netanyahu-s-corruption-trial/ar-AA1HqVEm


One very corrupt guy trying to support another! >:(
Title: Re: Israel targets Iran's nuclear sites and military commanders in major attack
Post by: Nearly Sane on June 26, 2025, 11:04:49 AM
Quote from: Roses on June 26, 2025, 10:33:50 AM

One very corrupt guy trying to support another! >:(
I think like being pregnant, you either are corrupt or not. Using qualifiers on it seems pointless.
Title: Re: Israel targets Iran's nuclear sites and military commanders in major attack
Post by: Gonnagle on June 26, 2025, 11:57:40 AM
Dear Thread,

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/6/24/is-the-12-day-israel-iran-war-really-over-and-who-gained

According to the link, well done Donald ( no not duck ).

But the world watches and does nothing as children are maimed and killed.

Cynical old me, show me the money, SHOW ME THE MONEY.

Gonnagle.
Title: Re: Israel targets Iran's nuclear sites and military commanders in major attack
Post by: Roses on June 26, 2025, 02:18:53 PM
Quote from: Nearly Sane on June 26, 2025, 11:04:49 AM
I think like being pregnant, you either are corrupt or not. Using qualifiers on it seems pointless.

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