Author Topic: Campus killing lays bare America's bloody and broken politics  (Read 648 times)

Aruntraveller

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Re: Campus killing lays bare America's bloody and broken politics
« Reply #50 on: September 13, 2025, 03:30:41 PM »
He was murdered. Nothing in what he says gives any support to that. He didn't support murder and your post just makes it even more like you want to imply that he did.


He gave support to the idea that a number of gun deaths was a price worth paying. Fine, he paid that price. I'm sorry he did. But it was his own view on the issue.

Please do not accuse me of saying things I haven't said.
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Re: Campus killing lays bare America's bloody and broken politics
« Reply #51 on: September 13, 2025, 03:31:06 PM »

EDIT: I probably won't respond further as it appears we are reading the statement in fundamentally different ways, I apparently can no more see your pov than you can mine.
Fair enough

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Re: Campus killing lays bare America's bloody and broken politics
« Reply #52 on: September 13, 2025, 03:32:09 PM »

He gave support to the idea that a number of gun deaths was a price worth paying. Fine, he paid that price. I'm sorry he did. But it was his own view on the issue.

Please do not accuse me of saying things I haven't said.
Then don't make statements that state that what happened was something he supported

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Re: Campus killing lays bare America's bloody and broken politics
« Reply #53 on: September 13, 2025, 03:39:11 PM »
Then don't make statements that state that what happened was something he supported

He supported the idea that a number of gun deaths was a price worth paying.

Fucks sake this isn't complicated. He did support it.

I really am out of this discussion now. We should be concentrating on the hate he propogated not this merry go round of misunderstanding.
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Re: Campus killing lays bare America's bloody and broken politics
« Reply #54 on: September 13, 2025, 03:42:06 PM »
He supported the idea that a number of gun deaths was a price worth paying.

Fucks sake this isn't complicated. He did support it.

I really am out of this discussion now. We should be concentrating on the hate he propogated not this merry go round of misunderstanding.
He really didn't support murder. Murder was what happened. I think we should be concentrating on the murder.

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Re: Campus killing lays bare America's bloody and broken politics
« Reply #55 on: September 14, 2025, 12:29:38 PM »
Another good Americast on the murder of Kirk


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/w3ct7t5x

Interestingly the previous Americast was on another murder, that of Iryna Zarutska,  but it plays as a companion piece in terms of how so much is politicised.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0m20qqr

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Re: Campus killing lays bare America's bloody and broken politics
« Reply #56 on: September 17, 2025, 07:05:36 PM »

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Re: Campus killing lays bare America's bloody and broken politics
« Reply #57 on: September 18, 2025, 12:39:28 AM »

The 'spectrum of opinion' seems pretty narrow here

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c203n52x1y9o

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Re: Campus killing lays bare America's bloody and broken politics
« Reply #58 on: September 19, 2025, 08:55:18 AM »
If the conditions laid out are correct, it surely makes it impossible for Kimmel to comply with, and is surely a form of enforced speech, particularly as regards the donation


https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/jimmy-kimmel-told-apologise-and-donate-to-charlie-kirks-family-to-get-show-back/ar-AA1MSomk

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Re: Campus killing lays bare America's bloody and broken politics
« Reply #59 on: September 19, 2025, 10:22:10 AM »
When Star Trek used to be good:
How you die does not redeem how you lived.

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Re: Campus killing lays bare America's bloody and broken politics
« Reply #60 on: September 19, 2025, 11:20:09 AM »
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Re: Campus killing lays bare America's bloody and broken politics
« Reply #62 on: September 19, 2025, 11:25:47 AM »
Lots of cringe memes of Kirk in heaven by his supporters. This is the best reply to them though.👇
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