The prince and the paedophile

[Spud]

So you think that the Telegraph gave its headline and half the front page to a mickey-take?

I haven't read the article. Maybe it isn't a mickey take, but merely taken to provide evidence that Virginia fabricated the story that (iirc) it was a Victorian bath in the middle of the room.

Hervey has given another recent interview in which she says the last time she was in London she met up with the person who made the photo. She says he showed her how he did it: took separate photos and cut out the figures with a razor blade, then superimposed them on the background and re-photographed it. He has a criminal record and is afraid to come forward in case he goes to jail for it. He was bribed into making it, using items including something that belonged to Diana. Andrew apparently had no choice but to settle with Giuffre, because of the Jubilee.

[Nearly Sane]

Very powerful interview with Giuffre's brother and his wife


https://www.channel4.com/news/virginia-roberts-giuffres-family-on-prince-andrew-epstein-and-the-global-cover-up

[Spud]

Very powerful interview with Giuffre's brother and his wife


https://www.channel4.com/news/virginia-roberts-giuffres-family-on-prince-andrew-epstein-and-the-global-cover-up

Watched some of it. Have also read some of the articles about Virginia Roberts' memoirs which were recently published. I'm not sure how we can take these seriously, given that she has tried to destroy Prince Andrew's reputation using as evidence a photo that to me is clearly Fake.

Some new information: Victoria Hervey claims to have listened to a recording of a phone call in which Virginia told someone that nothing happened with Andrew. She said this on LBC and in a Piers Morgan show. Unfortunately the recordings are being held by the FBI (hmm)

[Nearly Sane]

Watched some of it. Have also read some of the articles about Virginia Roberts' memoirs which were recently published. I'm not sure how we can take these seriously, given that she has tried to destroy Prince Andrew's reputation using as evidence a photo that to me is clearly Fake.

Some new information: Victoria Hervey claims to have listened to a recording of a phone call in which Virginia told someone nothing happened with Andrew. She said this on LBC and in a Piers Morgan show.

  If my grand niece says cheese is made of diamonds as she did at the weekend that's information in the same sense as that claim

[Spud]

  If my grand niece says cheese is made of diamonds as she did at the weekend that's information in the same sense as that claim

No because we already know cheese isn't made of diamonds.

[Nearly Sane]

No because we already know cheese isn't made of diamonds.

You don't understand your own use of language. If information is simply someone saying something, which is the test you applied to Hervey's claim then it is information. It may not be correct but it tells you that my grandneice said it. Just as that is the only information you get from Hervey's claim.

[Spud]

You don't understand your own use of language. If information is simply someone saying something, which is the test you applied to Hervey's claim then it is information. It may not be correct but it tells you that my grandneice said it. Just as that is the only information you get from Hervey's claim.

There's a possibility that Hervey's claim is true, which is not the case for your grand niece's claim. And to be fair I did clarify that it's possible she could be lying, by saying 'hmm'.

[Nearly Sane]

There's a possibility that Hervey's claim is true, which is not the case for your grand niece's claim. And to be fair I did clarify that it's possible she could be lying, by saying 'hmm'.

You mean by adding that after I raised the issue. It is only information in exactly the same way my grandneice's statement is. Someone claimed something

[Spud]

You mean by adding that after I raised the issue.

It was part of my reply to your original post.

[Nearly Sane]

It was part of my reply to your original post.

Post 278 is my reply to you quoting your whole post unedited. It does not appear in it.

[Spud]

Post 278 is my reply to you quoting your whole post unedited. It does not appear in it.

I don't recall adding editing 277 in response to your reply. I don't think the edit function allows editing after four minutes without noting the time at the bottom. If so then you must have clicked 'reply', then spent about 3 minutes writing post 278, during the first minute of which I made the edit to 277?

[Nearly Sane]

A picture paints a thousand screams


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g7d39n6vgo