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Re: 6 Nations Rugby Men and Women 2024
« Reply #75 on: February 24, 2024, 06:41:21 PM »
That decision for Scotland v France now affecting the whole 6 Nations

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Re: 6 Nations Rugby Men and Women 2024
« Reply #76 on: February 25, 2024, 06:26:02 PM »
Shot clock should be reset if ball falls off support. French ran towards ball so kick should have been retaken.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/68397499
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Re: 6 Nations Rugby Men and Women 2024
« Reply #77 on: February 26, 2024, 08:54:18 AM »
Shot clock should be reset if ball falls off support.

That seems sensible.

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French ran towards ball so kick should have been retaken.

That's true. I missed it the first time, but one of the French players clearly ran towards the ball. Technically it is not "retaking the penalty" but a new penalty ten metres closer to the French line.
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Re: 6 Nations Rugby Men and Women 2024
« Reply #78 on: March 05, 2024, 01:38:05 PM »
In other places I've seen a lot of discussion about the eligibility criteria used at international level, which seems to involve only a short period of residency, rather than any meaningful connection with the country adopted (e.g. as might be the case if there was the requirement for at least a grandparent from that country).

The criteria seem too lax to my mind - I don't think transferring to a club side in Scotland or in Ireland and playing there for three years should be sufficient, as is the case for van der Merwe for Scotland and Lowe, Aki and Gibson-Park for Ireland. As far as I'm aware beyond living there for a while none have any family connection to their chosen country.

Now I believe the residency rules are now a little tighter (5 rather than 3 years) but it seems to me that you must have some family link (however tenuous) to a country to be eligible to play for them. Otherwise it becomes little more than an indication of where you play your club rugby.

Now in the case of Ireland Lowe, Aki and Gibson-Park are all New Zealanders - I wonder whether in some deep, deep part of their psychology this affect them just a little bit when they are playing ... err ... New Zealand, their actual nationality.

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Re: 6 Nations Rugby Men and Women 2024
« Reply #79 on: March 11, 2024, 08:15:02 AM »
This weekend's results were fairly unexpected. I had Ireland and Scotland to win comfortably. Although I thought France would also win, I thought it would be close. In the event they hammered Wales.
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Re: 6 Nations Rugby Men and Women 2024
« Reply #80 on: March 16, 2024, 04:19:33 PM »
Impressive performance by Italy to hand the Wooden Spoon to Wales. In fact, until the substitutions, they were cruising comfortably.
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Re: 6 Nations Rugby Men and Women 2024
« Reply #81 on: March 18, 2024, 02:21:36 PM »
Not sure what to make of that Six Nations. Bad for Wales, good for Italy. In different ways disappointment for Ireland, France, and Scotland. Hope for England? France's 2nd is a thing.

Notable that at Under 20s Englsnd and Ireland are the stsnd outs at the top, and Scotland at the bottom.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/under-20-six-nations/table



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Re: 6 Nations Rugby Men and Women 2024
« Reply #82 on: March 18, 2024, 03:55:21 PM »
Not sure what to make of that Six Nations. Bad for Wales, good for Italy. In different ways disappointment for Ireland, France, and Scotland. Hope for England? France's 2nd is a thing.
Ireland did what was expected.

France underperformed IMO, but were missing Antoine Dupont.

England were, on the whole, improved and played some pretty good rugby in the last two games.

Scotland flattered to derive, as usual.

Italy showed they are an improving side. Were possibly unlucky to lose to England.

Wales. Oh dear.

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Notable that at Under 20s Englsnd and Ireland are the stsnd outs at the top, and Scotland at the bottom.

I would say those results compound the trouble at Wales.
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Re: 6 Nations Rugby Men and Women 2024
« Reply #83 on: March 19, 2024, 06:48:39 PM »

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Re: 6 Nations Rugby Men and Women 2024
« Reply #84 on: March 20, 2024, 06:10:53 PM »
And some info on what to expect in the Women's Six Nations


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/68597483

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Re: 6 Nations Rugby Men and Women 2024
« Reply #85 on: March 21, 2024, 09:03:37 AM »
And some info on what to expect in the Women's Six Nations


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/68597483

Hopefully, it will be a bit more competitive now some of the teams other than England and France have professional players.
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Re: 6 Nations Rugby Men and Women 2024
« Reply #86 on: March 25, 2024, 10:45:09 AM »
Hopefully, it will be a bit more competitive now some of the teams other than England and France have professional players.
1 close game, 1 not close but competitive, and one where even a sending off couldn't make it either.

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Re: 6 Nations Rugby Men and Women 2024
« Reply #87 on: March 26, 2024, 11:31:36 AM »
1 close game, 1 not close but competitive, and one where even a sending off couldn't make it either.

And England had a yellow in the second half meaning that for a period they were down to thirteen - and Italy still couldn't score.

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Re: 6 Nations Rugby Men and Women 2024
« Reply #88 on: March 30, 2024, 10:39:59 PM »
Tough if messy match between Scotland and France
 Easy win for England against Wales but the gap doesn't seem as big as last year.

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Re: 6 Nations Rugby Men and Women 2024
« Reply #89 on: March 31, 2024, 05:35:07 PM »
Ireland will be disappointed to have lost.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/68704258

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Re: 6 Nations Rugby Men and Women 2024
« Reply #90 on: April 13, 2024, 04:53:10 PM »
Another easy win for England despite another red card


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/68808365

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Re: 6 Nations Rugby Men and Women 2024
« Reply #91 on: April 14, 2024, 03:56:42 PM »
France win again but not as convincely as England. Looks like the other teams have got closer to France but England have stretched away.

Good win for Ireland against Wales 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/68811809

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/68809548

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Re: 6 Nations Rugby Men and Women 2024
« Reply #92 on: April 15, 2024, 08:38:11 AM »
I watched England play Scotland. They were playing with 14 women for almost half the match but they barely noticed. They still seemed to be able to score almost at will.

Also, the Scottish line out was absolutely terrible. England were almost as likely to win it as Scotland. Excepting France, the other NH sides are still miles behind.
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Re: 6 Nations Rugby Men and Women 2024
« Reply #93 on: April 16, 2024, 11:55:49 AM »
'British and Irish Lions women: £3m fund aims to ensure first women's team is more than just England"

Really don't see the point in a women's Lions team being set up.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/68819287

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Re: 6 Nations Rugby Men and Women 2024
« Reply #94 on: April 16, 2024, 12:24:15 PM »
'British and Irish Lions women: £3m fund aims to ensure first women's team is more than just England"

Really don't see the point in a women's Lions team being set up.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/68819287

I'm not a massive fan of the men's team.
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Re: 6 Nations Rugby Men and Women 2024
« Reply #95 on: April 16, 2024, 12:57:46 PM »
I'm not a massive fan of the men's team.
Neither am I, but given that it exists, that's a different argument. I wonder if there is a financial argument for the women's Lions.

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Re: 6 Nations Rugby Men and Women 2024
« Reply #96 on: April 16, 2024, 01:07:03 PM »
Neither am I, but given that it exists, that's a different argument. I wonder if there is a financial argument for the women's Lions.
I'll have a go. Given that women's rugby in the home nations other than England is a long way behind, investment in the game in those home nations can only increase the appeal. Using the problem of the Lions being England by another name is a hook on which to hang funding for the other home nations.

Edit: sorry, that doesn't answer the question you asked.

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Re: 6 Nations Rugby Men and Women 2024
« Reply #97 on: April 16, 2024, 01:18:34 PM »
I'll have a go. Given that women's rugby in the home nations other than England is a long way behind, investment in the game in those home nations can only increase the appeal. Using the problem of the Lions being England by another name is a hook on which to hang funding for the other home nations.

Edit: sorry, that doesn't answer the question you asked.
I'm wondering whether the Lions name means they would get bigger attendances in the Southern Hemisphere nations? But it does feel incredibly anachronistic to set one up now.

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Re: 6 Nations Rugby Men and Women 2024
« Reply #98 on: April 20, 2024, 04:24:14 PM »
Another huge win for England, this time keeping all their players on the pitch.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/68855338

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Re: 6 Nations Rugby Men and Women 2024
« Reply #99 on: April 20, 2024, 04:40:29 PM »
Another huge win for England, this time keeping all their players on the pitch.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/68855338

Well, Lucy Packer got sin-binned, so England were down to 14 for 10 minutes.
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