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Re: Assisted Suicide bill to be debated in parliament
« Reply #525 on: June 20, 2025, 04:16:31 PM »
That'll be an early end for some that didn't really want it.

Potentially, pitched against the definite history of people forced to keep going through pain, suffering, and indignity longer than they wanted...

Time now to see if the Lords Spiritual are going to keep up their record of standing on the wrong side of history.

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Re: Assisted Suicide bill to be debated in parliament
« Reply #526 on: June 20, 2025, 04:19:26 PM »
Potentially, pitched against the definite history of people forced to keep going through pain, suffering, and indignity longer than they wanted...

Time now to see if the Lords Spiritual are going to keep up their record of standing on the wrong side of history.

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I don't think you like the reality of supporting the early end of those that didn't really want it.

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Re: Assisted Suicide bill to be debated in parliament
« Reply #527 on: June 20, 2025, 04:30:53 PM »
I don't think you like the reality of supporting the early end of those that didn't really want it.
Repeating above assertion doesn't make it anything more than assertion.


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Re: Assisted Suicide bill to be debated in parliament
« Reply #528 on: June 20, 2025, 04:32:20 PM »
Potentially, pitched against the definite history of people forced to keep going through pain, suffering, and indignity longer than they wanted...

Time now to see if the Lords Spiritual are going to keep up their record of standing on the wrong side of history.

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The wrong side of history surely makes a claim to objective morality?


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Re: Assisted Suicide bill to be debated in parliament
« Reply #530 on: June 20, 2025, 09:04:26 PM »
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/jun/20/assisted-dying-bill-how-will-it-work-and-when-will-it-come-into-effect
is there anything you would like to highlight from the article? Is there anything that might help you justify your unevidenced claim about it supporting  'the reality of supporting the early end of those that didn't really want it.',
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Walt Zingmatilder

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Re: Assisted Suicide bill to be debated in parliament
« Reply #531 on: June 21, 2025, 07:06:56 AM »
is there anything you would like to highlight from the article? Is there anything that might help you justify your unevidenced claim about it supporting  'the reality of supporting the early end of those that didn't really want it.',
It appears to me that some who voted for it became unsatisfied because levels of jurisdiction were taken away and some did not seem to be in place.

That it is passed is how our democracy works.
The job of convincing those with reservations falls on those who support this wholeheartedly. I think they own future outcomes.

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Re: Assisted Suicide bill to be debated in parliament
« Reply #532 on: June 21, 2025, 07:16:18 AM »
It appears to me that some who voted for it became unsatisfied because levels of jurisdiction were taken away and some did not seem to be in place.

That it is passed is how our democracy works.
The job of convincing those with reservations falls on those who support this wholeheartedly. I think they own future outcomes.
So no evidence

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Re: Assisted Suicide bill to be debated in parliament
« Reply #533 on: June 21, 2025, 09:24:16 AM »
As so often nowadays it is the arguments of supporters of things that put me off, more than the arguments of opponents


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx23nd10295o

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Re: Assisted Suicide bill to be debated in parliament
« Reply #534 on: June 23, 2025, 02:26:03 PM »
The wrong side of history surely makes a claim to objective morality?

No, it makes a claim towards increased recognition of individual rights over time.

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