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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Rhiannon on April 20, 2018, 04:10:26 PM
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Ffs.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-43836156
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Ffs.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-43836156
Where does it say French people are thick, it seems like a sensible thing to do?
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Ffs.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-43836156
surely sausage is a physical description?
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Where does it say French people are thick, it seems like a sensible thing to do?
Why is it sensible? Are you saying if someone says it's a veggie sausage, you, or the French people who being implied as thick, would no know it was a sausage with no meat?
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Where does it say French people are thick, it seems like a sensible thing to do?
products such as vegan sausages and other vegetarian alternatives are confusing for consumers.
They really aren’t.
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surely sausage is a physical description?
It’s way of describing a shape. Sausage dogs aren’t actually made of sausage.
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It’s way of describing a shape. Sausage dogs aren’t actually made of sausage.
exactly, I don't ever think sausage in that sense means meat. But then I'm not French.
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Currently soy and nut mills are described as ‘milk alternatives’ , but in the past they were destined as ‘soya drinks’, which was misleading as I don’t use milk as a drink. Ditto yogurt - I know what to expect from a soya yoghurt, but a soya dessert?
Presumably vegan sauasgaes will now be labelled as ‘vegan sticks’ or something. Which is definitely confusing.
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Reminds me of the 'Party Games' episode of 'Yes Minister' many years ago in which the EU decided the UK version of the sausage should be called 'Emulsified High-Fat Offal Tube'.
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There’s a link in the article to the EU banning the use of the terms ‘butter’ and ‘cheese’ for non-dairy items. But in this country we have a very long tradition of making fruit butters and cheeses. Along with elderflower champagne, of course, which is now labelled ‘presse’.
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Why is it sensible? Are you saying if someone says it's a veggie sausage, you, or the French people who being implied as thick, would no know it was a sausage with no meat?
I object to the French being called thick, having French ancestry on my Father's side of the family. I think it needs to be made quite clear that the sausages don't contain meat, as most people would expect them to do so, imo, it wouldn't occur to me that there was a veggie alternative, YUCK!
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There’s a link in the article to the EU banning the use of the terms ‘butter’ and ‘cheese’ for non-dairy items. But in this country we have a very long tradition of making fruit butters and cheeses. Along with elderflower champagne, of course, which is now labelled ‘presse’.
I get the champagne thing. But there isn't a regional specific method for a sausage.
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I object to the French being called thick, having French ancestry on my Father's side of the family. I think it needs to be made quite clear that the sausages don't contain meat, as most people would expect them to do so, imo, it wouldn't occur to me that there was a veggie alternative, YUCK!
Then object to the MP. Rhiannon is saying they aren't think and don't need to be told that vegan sausages don't contain meat. Do you honestly think that something that says 'vegan sausage' has meat in it?
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I object to the French being called thick, having French ancestry on my Father's side of the family. I think it needs to be made quite clear that the sausages don't contain meat, as most people would expect them to do so, imo, it wouldn't occur to me that there was a veggie alternative, YUCK!
Ffs, Floo, it’s the French Parliament that is saying they are too stupid to tell a veggie sausage from a meat one. What do you think a ‘vegetarian sausage’ should contain? Foie gras?
Vegetarian and vegan sausages have been around commercially since I went veggie almost 30 years ago. And for someone living in Wales you should at least know what Glamorgan sausages are made from.
http://www.visitwales.com/explore/traditions-history/recipes/glamorgan-sausages
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Ffs, Floo, it’s the French Parliament that is saying they are too stupid to tell a veggie sausage from a meat one. What do you think a ‘vegetarian sausage’ should contain? Foie gras?
Vegetarian and vegan sausages have been around commercially since I went veggie almost 30 years ago. And for someone living in Wales you should at least know what Glamorgan sausages are made from.
Never heard of the things!
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Never heard of the things!
Again, the link. Visit Wales have.
http://www.visitwales.com/explore/traditions-history/recipes/glamorgan-sausages
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Never heard of the things!
Vegetarian sausages?
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Vegetarian sausages?
Linda McCartney never made it up the M4.
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Linda McCartney never made it up the M4.
presumably a nut roast would be banned too?
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Again, the link. Visit Wales have.
http://www.visitwales.com/explore/traditions-history/recipes/glamorgan-sausages
Well they don't sell them in the Tesco store in which I shop.
Our middle daughter is a veggie and would no doubt like the things.
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Well they don't sell them in the Tesco store in which I shop.
We really need a facepalm emoticon.
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We really need a facepalm emoticon.
What is that?
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presumably a nut roast would be banned too?
Not sure. You can roast pretty much anything. Veggie lasagne would be though. Veggie paella ditto. And cauliflower steak.
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What is that?
An emoticon representing a facepalm. Apple do one but it may not be visible.
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An emoticon representing a facepalm. Apple do one but it may not be visible.
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What is a facepalm, not with you?
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I am in France at the moment. I had lunch with a couple of friends, one of whom is a French national.
Although this decision was not mentioned (I do not know whether my French friend was aware of it) we did talk briefly about vegetarianism and vegan diets. She said that there are vegan and vegetarian restaurants in Paris and the large cities but in country areas there are likely to be people who just don't understand the concept - it is taken for granted that any meal will include meat products. Perhaps the change in law is to ensure that their sensibilities will not be offended!
The Channel Islands are not members of the EU and so Jersey Black Butter is safe.
Rhiannon, please do not be too hard on Floo Littleroses - we've only recently got her back ....
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I am in France at the moment. I had lunch with a couple of friends, one of whom is a French national.
Although this decision was not mentioned (I do not know whether my French friend was aware of it) we did talk briefly about vegetarianism and vegan diets. She said that there are vegan and vegetarian restaurants in Paris and the large cities but in country areas there are likely to be people who just don't understand the concept - it is taken for granted that any meal will include meat products. Perhaps the change in law is to ensure that their sensibilities will not be offended!
The Channel Islands are not members of the EU and so Jersey Black Butter is safe.
Rhiannon, please do not be too hard on Floo Littleroses - we've only recently got her back ....
I have never heard of Jersey black butter.
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In what way does banning the term vegetarian sausage help awareness of vegetarianism?
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I have never heard of Jersey black butter.
It is a spicy preserve made from apples and cider and, I think, black treacle. I use it to flavour cheesecake. People love it ...
... Let's get back on the rails.
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exactly, I don't ever think sausage in that sense means meat. But then I'm not French.
No, they just use too nuch garlic. Vile stuff.
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There’s a link in the article to the EU banning the use of the terms ‘butter’ and ‘cheese’ for non-dairy items. But in this country we have a very long tradition of making fruit butters and cheeses. Along with elderflower champagne, of course, which is now labelled ‘presse’.
Peanut butter has no dairy produce in it, but I think if you called it (for example) peanut purée, people would be more confused than they are now.
I have to say, I found the title of your thread more misleading than the term "vegetarian sausage". I was expecting a story about a British MP - possibly Boris Johnson - saying French people are thick. This is not a criticism, just an observation.
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Peanut butter has no dairy produce in it, but I think if you called it (for example) peanut purée, people would be more confused than they are now.
I have to say, I found the title of your thread more misleading than the term "vegetarian sausage". I was expecting a story about a British MP - possibly Boris Johnson - saying French people are thick. This is not a criticism, just an observation.
I only phrased it like that because ‘French people are thick says French MP’ didn’t scan so well.
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President Macron came out with a pretty good English pun today - see my new signature.