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Title: ' How do your morals compare?'
Post by: Nearly Sane on November 21, 2019, 08:21:51 AM
Odd little quiz. I do wonder about whether the questions were answered honestly.



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50487054
Title: Re: ' How do your morals compare?'
Post by: Steve H on November 21, 2019, 08:38:56 AM
6/10 for me - which I assume means that I agree with the majority 6 times out of 10.
Title: Re: ' How do your morals compare?'
Post by: Roses on November 21, 2019, 08:45:20 AM
I can't get the quiz to come up. However I did see the bit about people taking a sickie when they weren't ill, that is disgusting and immoral! >:(
Title: Re: ' How do your morals compare?'
Post by: Harrowby Hall on November 21, 2019, 09:06:43 AM
7/10 for me - but I found some of the questions difficult to answer because they specified a situation which did not apply to me.

For instance, would I read my partner's social media private material. I haven't got a partner - so it's hypothetical. And I can only once "taking a sickie" because I was going for an interview for a job which would enable me to escape a job in which I was not happy.
Title: Re: ' How do your morals compare?'
Post by: Aruntraveller on November 21, 2019, 09:10:44 AM
Also 7/10 but as HH implies the questions don't fully cover all options.
Title: Re: ' How do your morals compare?'
Post by: Nearly Sane on November 21, 2019, 09:22:17 AM
And it's very black and white in some of them. I also struggle with whether it means 'Do you think this is immoral' as opposed to 'would you do this'. I know that people might do something that they think is immoral, but my suspicion is that at base that's a worry about getting caught, and that they actually do think it's ok for them.
Title: Re: ' How do your morals compare?'
Post by: Gordon on November 21, 2019, 10:03:35 AM
I scored 7/10 - it says I have a rebellious streak, which has cheered me up no end.
Title: Re: ' How do your morals compare?'
Post by: Nearly Sane on November 21, 2019, 10:48:15 AM
And looking at it I am not sure how the question "Do you agree women and men are born to have different roles?" is about morals, I also don't really understand the VR question, surely it depends on what the point of the game is?

I got 4/10.
Title: Re: ' How do your morals compare?'
Post by: Gordon on November 21, 2019, 10:58:35 AM
I thought the VR question was odd too - it's a game, and being able to kill artificial characters in a game isn't really a moral question any more than shooting artificial ducks at a fairground stall is.
Title: Re: ' How do your morals compare?'
Post by: Nearly Sane on November 21, 2019, 11:44:48 AM
The choices for is it ever right to cheat on your partner were bizarre - who on earth says 'Yes, if it's with a celebrity'?
Title: Re: ' How do your morals compare?'
Post by: jeremyp on November 21, 2019, 12:01:59 PM
The choices for is it ever right to cheat on your partner were bizarre - who on earth says 'Yes, if it's with a celebrity'?
10% of young people apparently.

(8/10 for me)
Title: Re: ' How do your morals compare?'
Post by: jeremyp on November 21, 2019, 12:03:37 PM
I thought the VR question was odd too - it's a game, and being able to kill artificial characters in a game isn't really a moral question any more than shooting artificial ducks at a fairground stall is.
I answered that it was absolutely fine, but that apparently puts me in a small minority.

But it's a game. It's not real. It's no more immoral than Agatha Christie writing books in which one of the characters murders somebody.
Title: Re: ' How do your morals compare?'
Post by: Roses on November 21, 2019, 12:09:53 PM
I managed to do the quiz in the end, I thought my score would have been higher.

Somewhat rebellious, somewhat socially aligned. Your values are a mix-and-match of those surveyed.
Your score:
6/10


I agree with the rebellious bit, certainly when I was younger.
Title: Re: ' How do your morals compare?'
Post by: Nearly Sane on November 21, 2019, 12:10:06 PM
I answered that it was absolutely fine, but that apparently puts me in a small minority.

But it's a game. It's not real. It's no more immoral than Agatha Christie writing books in which one of the characters murders somebody.
That was my take as well - that said I would be more uncomfortable with the idea of torture or rape as mentioned in the reply.
Title: Re: ' How do your morals compare?'
Post by: jeremyp on November 21, 2019, 12:22:28 PM
That was my take as well - that said I would be more uncomfortable with the idea of torture or rape as mentioned in the reply.

That's an interesting point. The same logic applies but I don't think I could ever rape somebody in a game. If it was an action that was necessary to progress, I think I would stop playing  the game. In fact, if it was even possible to rape somebody in game, it means the game designer deliberately programmed it in, so I would probably not play that game.

And yet, I have no problem blowing my enemies to smithereens in computer games. I am disturbed by my own inconsistency.
Title: Re: ' How do your morals compare?'
Post by: Nearly Sane on November 21, 2019, 12:28:24 PM
That's an interesting point. The same logic applies but I don't think I could ever rape somebody in a game. If it was an action that was necessary to progress, I think I would stop playing  the game. In fact, if it was even possible to rape somebody in game, it means the game designer deliberately programmed it in, so I would probably not play that game.

And yet, I have no problem blowing my enemies to smithereens in computer games. I am disturbed by my own inconsistency.
I suppose there are times where we are more likely to see killing as justified but not rape. And My reaction to a game with rape would be the same as yours.
Title: Re: ' How do your morals compare?'
Post by: Walter on November 21, 2019, 01:01:42 PM
No surprises for me then
3/10
I'm an absolute rotter 😂😱
Title: Re: ' How do your morals compare?'
Post by: Nearly Sane on November 21, 2019, 01:03:21 PM
No surprises for me then
3/10
I'm an absolute rotter 😂😱
That was at the high end of my prediction for you  ;)
Title: Re: ' How do your morals compare?'
Post by: Walter on November 21, 2019, 01:11:05 PM
That was at the high end of my prediction for you  ;)
and I guessed about right for you too.

I must add that I'm one of those " do as I say, not as I do " types .

I know , hard to believe ! 😂👽
Title: Re: ' How do your morals compare?'
Post by: Nearly Sane on November 21, 2019, 01:20:06 PM
and I guessed about right for you too.

I must add that I'm one of those " do as I say, not as I do " types .

I know , hard to believe ! 😂👽
Yep, with you on that. Of all the scores people have put up the only one I can honestly say was surprising was LR - I mean 6/10 is borderline being down with the scum like us.  ;)
Title: Re: ' How do your morals compare?'
Post by: Walter on November 21, 2019, 01:30:16 PM
Yep, with you on that. Of all the scores people have put up the only one I can honestly say was surprising was LR - I mean 6/10 is borderline being down with the scum like us.  ;)
saney

My guess is she did the quizz at least twice and realised she looked too goody two shoeos so made up her score to give her some street cred 😇
Title: Re: ' How do your morals compare?'
Post by: Roses on November 21, 2019, 01:37:16 PM
saney

My guess is she did the quizz at least twice and realised she looked too goody two shoeos so made up her score to give her some street cred 😇

FYI I did it only once! ::)
Title: Re: ' How do your morals compare?'
Post by: Nearly Sane on November 21, 2019, 01:46:08 PM
saney

My guess is she did the quizz at least twice and realised she looked too goody two shoeos so made up her score to give her some street cred 😇
I doubt LR pursues street cred, she rolls her own rebellious way. I can just picture her in the Brando role in The Wild One being asked what she was rebelling against and replying 'What've you got?'.
Title: Re: ' How do your morals compare?'
Post by: Walter on November 21, 2019, 01:48:12 PM
FYI I did it only once! ::)
"FYI"    Told ya , street cred ! 😳

Lr
You've gotta get up to get down 💃
Title: Re: ' How do your morals compare?'
Post by: Roses on November 21, 2019, 01:49:44 PM
"FYI"    Told ya , street cred ! 😳

Lr
You've gotta get up to get down 💃

What are you on about?
Title: Re: ' How do your morals compare?'
Post by: Walter on November 21, 2019, 01:52:54 PM
I doubt LR pursues street cred, she rolls her own rebellious way. I can just picture her in the Brando role in The Wild One being asked what she was rebelling against and replying 'What've you got?'.
haha
More like
Rebel without a cause ( or understanding )

Lr ,
Just kidding ( I think👽)
Title: Re: ' How do your morals compare?'
Post by: Roses on November 21, 2019, 01:59:35 PM
I don't need street cred. I have always done my own thing from a very young age, often putting myself in danger, like the time I tackled a gang of youths who were taunting an elderly bag lady. I have no doubt I would do the same today if the situation arose. My favourite refrain is, 'don't do anything I would do', the response is usually, 'no we wouldn't be that stupid'! ;D
Title: Re: ' How do your morals compare?'
Post by: Gordon on November 21, 2019, 02:11:05 PM
The outlook of that great philosopher Groucho Marks comes to mind: 'Those are my principles, and if you don't like them...well I have others.'
Title: Re: ' How do your morals compare?'
Post by: Walter on November 21, 2019, 02:24:55 PM
The outlook of that great philosopher Groucho Marks comes to mind: 'Those are my principles, and if you don't like them...well I have others.'
my fave is ;
I'd never join a club who'd have me as a member .

Btw , I live alone . I've often wondered why ?
Title: Re: ' How do your morals compare?'
Post by: Walter on November 21, 2019, 02:26:25 PM
I don't need street cred. I have always done my own thing from a very young age, often putting myself in danger, like the time I tackled a gang of youths who were taunting an elderly bag lady. I have no doubt I would do the same today if the situation arose. My favourite refrain is, 'don't do anything I would do', the response is usually, 'no we wouldn't be that stupid'! ;D
careful now, you're not as young as you used to be 😈
Title: Re: ' How do your morals compare?'
Post by: Nearly Sane on November 21, 2019, 02:27:59 PM
my fave is ;
I'd never join a club who'd have me as a member .

Btw , I live alone . I've often wondered why ?

The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made.
Title: Re: ' How do your morals compare?'
Post by: Roses on November 21, 2019, 02:28:31 PM
careful now, you're not as young as you used to be 😈

Well that isn't going to make any difference to me being me.
Title: Re: ' How do your morals compare?'
Post by: Walter on November 21, 2019, 02:32:15 PM
The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made.
so true ,did you make that up yourself ?

Of course you did 😎
Title: Re: ' How do your morals compare?'
Post by: Nearly Sane on November 21, 2019, 02:41:46 PM
so true ,did you make that up yourself ?

Of course you did 😎
Just another one of Groucho's as is

There's one way to find out if a man is honest - ask him. If he says, 'Yes,' you know he is a crook.
Title: Re: ' How do your morals compare?'
Post by: Robbie on November 21, 2019, 07:05:24 PM
7/10 for me.
Title: Re: ' How do your morals compare?'
Post by: Walter on November 21, 2019, 07:20:04 PM
7/10 for me.
Robbie ,
We are meant for each other 😍
Title: Re: ' How do your morals compare?'
Post by: Robbie on November 21, 2019, 10:24:37 PM
I never forget a face, but in your case, I'll be glad to make an exception.
Title: Re: ' How do your morals compare?'
Post by: Roses on November 22, 2019, 08:27:09 AM
I never forget a face, but in your case, I'll be glad to make an exception.

You would need a blindfold as the sight might be so horrific. ;D

I have always been bad at remembering faces, especially those of women, it has got worse in my old age. :o
Title: Re: ' How do your morals compare?'
Post by: ProfessorDavey on November 22, 2019, 08:50:53 AM
7/10 for me.
Likewise - but you simply get points for agreeing with the masses, rather than for any 'right' answer. So all this does is determine whether your views are mainstream.

I did find the question about VR gaming strange simply because, as others have pointed out, it is a game. I replied 'sometimes' and I think that is one of my 'wrong' answers. I'm not a gamer, and what we might be missing are the rules and expectations in first person shooter games - I think in many cases the rules expect you not to shoot civilians and you lose points for doing so. So avoiding shooting them is part of the game. So there may be a huge community of gamers out there who have an in-built ethical code that you don't shoot civilians in games and I am not part of that community.
Title: Re: ' How do your morals compare?'
Post by: jeremyp on November 22, 2019, 09:36:10 AM
The outlook of that great philosopher Groucho Marks comes to mind: 'Those are my principles, and if you don't like them...well I have others.'

Never let your principles get in the way of doing the right thing.
Title: Re: ' How do your morals compare?'
Post by: Dicky Underpants on November 22, 2019, 04:35:42 PM
Odd little quiz. I do wonder about whether the questions were answered honestly.



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50487054

6 out of 10 for me too.
Title: Re: ' How do your morals compare?'
Post by: Walter on November 22, 2019, 04:47:35 PM
6 out of 10 for me too.
i would've been ashamed of myself if I'd got a score above 5
Title: Re: ' How do your morals compare?'
Post by: Udayana on November 22, 2019, 05:46:02 PM
7 ... might drop depending on choice of celebrity.