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Re: The Deity of Christ in the Old Testament
« Reply #25 on: October 12, 2015, 01:29:40 PM »
Rose I take my information from scripture the links you sent were what men say/hearsay,I prefer what Jesus says.

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You cannot be sure you have any of the words uttered by Jesus.

You also have what men wrote down as hearsay.

It could all be made up fantasy and you have no way to rule this out.

Make that your prayer.

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Re: The Deity of Christ in the Old Testament
« Reply #26 on: October 12, 2015, 01:29:43 PM »
Rose I take my information from scripture the links you sent were what men say/hearsay,I prefer what Jesus says.

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You have no idea if Jesus said any of what is attributed to him in the gospels.
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Re: The Deity of Christ in the Old Testament
« Reply #27 on: October 12, 2015, 01:30:07 PM »
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I'm begining to think there might be something in this devil idea, there seems to be something very much like it stalking around this forum.

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Re: The Deity of Christ in the Old Testament
« Reply #28 on: October 12, 2015, 01:30:26 PM »
Rose I take my information from scripture the links you sent were what men say/hearsay,I prefer what Jesus says.

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You have no idea if Jesus said any of what is attributed to him in the gospels.

           Make that your prayer.

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Re: The Deity of Christ in the Old Testament
« Reply #29 on: October 12, 2015, 01:44:45 PM »
Rose I take my information from scripture the links you sent were what men say/hearsay,I prefer what Jesus says.

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You cannot be sure you have any of the words uttered by Jesus.

You also have what men wrote down as hearsay.

It could all be made up fantasy and you have no way to rule this out.

Make that your prayer.

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Don't let BR rattle you Tw__even some very highly intelligent people follow your religion nonsense, not just you.

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Re: The Deity of Christ in the Old Testament
« Reply #30 on: October 12, 2015, 01:49:03 PM »
Rose I take my information from scripture the links you sent were what men say/hearsay,I prefer what Jesus says.

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You cannot be sure you have any of the words uttered by Jesus.

You also have what men wrote down as hearsay.

It could all be made up fantasy and you have no way to rule this out.

Make that your prayer.

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I never pray for obvious reasons.

Do you accept that you too only have words written by others that CLAIM they are the words of Jesus?
I see gullible people, everywhere!

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Re: The Deity of Christ in the Old Testament
« Reply #31 on: October 12, 2015, 02:06:20 PM »
Rose I take my information from scripture the links you sent were what men say/hearsay,I prefer what Jesus says.

 ~TW~

You cannot be sure you have any of the words uttered by Jesus.

You also have what men wrote down as hearsay.

It could all be made up fantasy and you have no way to rule this out.

Make that your prayer.

 ~TW~

I never pray for obvious reasons.

Do you accept that you too only have words written by others that CLAIM they are the words of Jesus?

 Absolutely yes, I am not like you,heaven forbid plus I also go on personnel experience for example the new birth.And much more.

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Re: The Deity of Christ in the Old Testament
« Reply #32 on: October 12, 2015, 02:15:24 PM »
Rose I take my information from scripture the links you sent were what men say/hearsay,I prefer what Jesus says.

 ~TW~

You cannot be sure you have any of the words uttered by Jesus.

You also have what men wrote down as hearsay.

It could all be made up fantasy and you have no way to rule this out.

Make that your prayer.

 ~TW~

I never pray for obvious reasons.

Do you accept that you too only have words written by others that CLAIM they are the words of Jesus?

 Absolutely yes, I am not like you,heaven forbid plus I also go on personnel experience for example the new birth.And much more.

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Re: The Deity of Christ in the Old Testament
« Reply #33 on: October 12, 2015, 02:41:26 PM »
Rose I take my information from scripture the links you sent were what men say/hearsay,I prefer what Jesus says.

 ~TW~

You cannot be sure you have any of the words uttered by Jesus.

You also have what men wrote down as hearsay.

It could all be made up fantasy and you have no way to rule this out.

Make that your prayer.

 ~TW~

I never pray for obvious reasons.

Do you accept that you too only have words written by others that CLAIM they are the words of Jesus?

 Absolutely yes, I am not like you,heaven forbid plus I also go on personnel experience for example the new birth.And much more.

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Personal experience of what?

What new birth, this is all just riddles.

Do you accept that the words you attribute to Jesus were actually written by men. You cannot be sure the words were ever said by Jesus.
I see gullible people, everywhere!

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Re: The Deity of Christ in the Old Testament
« Reply #34 on: October 12, 2015, 03:04:16 PM »
I do know something about it, because I went and found out what the Jews expected of a Messiah.

I'm not going to accept Christian theology uncritically unlike many Christians.
Similarly, others aren't going to accept your interpretation of theology - how ever much you might have investigated it - uncritically.  Especially when it doesn't ring true with what we have discovered in conversation and discussion with followers of whichever faith you have chosen to refer to.

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Nor am I going to be intimidated by Christians who believe in their own theology more than anything else and who would like to silence me.
That isn't a problem, so long as you are happy to be challenged and questioned on your own understandings and claims.

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Probably because they haven't been taught how to answer real questions.
It could possibly also be that they haven't been taught how to answer poor questions.

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There is no reason why I should accept anyone's theology.
Not sure that anyone is suggesting that you have to.

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Not all Christians accept all of each other's theology anyway.
Yet there are core doctrines that all Christians agree on.
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Re: The Deity of Christ in the Old Testament
« Reply #35 on: October 12, 2015, 03:30:49 PM »
MMMM
When Christians THEMSELVES cannot agree on ALL THINGS then why should any of us NON-Christians pay you any attention whatsoever ???? ;) ;)

And there ARE some rather nasty elements creeping in & around these forums BTW
Come On, be predictable, someone ?!!??! ;) ;) ::) ::)

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Re: The Deity of Christ in the Old Testament
« Reply #36 on: October 12, 2015, 03:35:16 PM »
MMMM
When Christians THEMSELVES cannot agree on ALL THINGS then why should any of us NON-Christians pay you any attention whatsoever ???? ;) ;)

And there ARE some rather nasty elements creeping in & around these forums BTW
Come On, be predictable, someone ?!!??! ;) ;) ::) ::)

Nick

Ah but only the fundies/Biblical literalists have the TRUTH ;D
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Re: The Deity of Christ in the Old Testament
« Reply #37 on: October 12, 2015, 03:36:44 PM »
OMG (literally)

YES

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Re: The Deity of Christ in the Old Testament
« Reply #38 on: October 12, 2015, 03:41:02 PM »
MMMM
When Christians THEMSELVES cannot agree on ALL THINGS then why should any of us NON-Christians pay you any attention whatsoever ???? ;) ;)
Is this the attitude you take to politics, or history, or science, Nick?
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Re: The Deity of Christ in the Old Testament
« Reply #39 on: October 12, 2015, 03:44:08 PM »
I am willing to bet that if it could ever be proved, without a shadow of a doubt, there was no deity or afterlife some would still believe there was!
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Re: The Deity of Christ in the Old Testament
« Reply #40 on: October 12, 2015, 03:47:49 PM »
H
Religion has its split groups & always has had.
When we have some on here that try to make others believe the same badly thought out & poorly explained issues, what should WE do???
Politics - YES
History - NO
Science - NO

H, you're a good guy, I can tell that easily from your posts & I'm sure we'd all have great conversations if we ever met.

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Re: The Deity of Christ in the Old Testament
« Reply #41 on: October 12, 2015, 04:12:13 PM »
Rose I take my information from scripture the links you sent were what men say/hearsay,I prefer what Jesus says.

 ~TW~

You cannot be sure you have any of the words uttered by Jesus.

You also have what men wrote down as hearsay.

It could all be made up fantasy and you have no way to rule this out.

Make that your prayer.

 ~TW~

I never pray for obvious reasons.

Do you accept that you too only have words written by others that CLAIM they are the words of Jesus?

 Absolutely yes, I am not like you,heaven forbid plus I also go on personnel experience for example the new birth.And much more.

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Personal experience of what?

What new birth, this is all just riddles.

Do you accept that the words you attribute to Jesus were actually written by men. You cannot be sure the words were ever said by Jesus.

 You really are a plonker/dipstick prove to me he never said it.

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Re: The Deity of Christ in the Old Testament
« Reply #42 on: October 12, 2015, 04:23:26 PM »
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You really are a plonker/dipstick prove to me he never said it.

Logic is lost on you.

Only an idiot would ask for negative proof.

Do you understand the burden of proof?

I don't know why I ask really, as clearly you cannot.
I see gullible people, everywhere!

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Re: The Deity of Christ in the Old Testament
« Reply #43 on: October 12, 2015, 04:38:48 PM »
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You really are a plonker/dipstick prove to me he never said it.

Logic is lost on you.

Only an idiot would ask for negative proof.

Do you understand the burden of proof?

I don't know why I ask really, as clearly you cannot.

 I repeat you are a pratt no one can say Jesus said this or that unless that person was there.But because I was not there does not prove he never said it.I know you would love to settle there,but so many other things are also on the line,you are simply an atheist /evolutionist who is standing up for his end,but that is your choice,now allow me to experience my life and Gods involvement in my life,so you know nothing of this  not my problem,your problem is who is right and at the moment the odds favour me.

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Re: The Deity of Christ in the Old Testament
« Reply #44 on: October 12, 2015, 05:21:52 PM »
One of the biggest prats on this forum is you TW!
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Re: The Deity of Christ in the Old Testament
« Reply #45 on: October 12, 2015, 05:27:42 PM »
Talking about garbage and making things up floo. You are the bomb!

I have to save this masterpiece of yours.

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Re: The Deity of Christ in the Old Testament
« Reply #46 on: October 13, 2015, 12:19:26 PM »
Talking about garbage and making things up floo. You are the bomb!

I have to save this masterpiece of yours.

"Lord,
Thank goodness you know me,
because I don't always know myself!
I suppose there is a purpose to the menopause,
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Nice one, jc. Keep it up:  hypocrites of this type should be exposed.
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Re: The Deity of Christ in the Old Testament
« Reply #47 on: October 13, 2015, 06:25:37 PM »
I don't know what that method is, please expand.
It's what the historical method is often based on. 
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Re: The Deity of Christ in the Old Testament
« Reply #48 on: October 13, 2015, 06:27:17 PM »
H, you're a good guy, I can tell that easily from your posts & I'm sure we'd all have great conversations if we ever met.

Nick
I suspect we'd enjoy talking things India and subcontinent
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Re: The Deity of Christ in the Old Testament
« Reply #49 on: October 13, 2015, 06:28:44 PM »
I am of the opinion the gospel writers wrote up the life of Jesus to make him appear to fit the profile of the expected Jewish messiah! The fact that most Jews didn't recognise him as such speaks volumes!
And, in your opinion, what was the profile of this expected messiah, Floo?
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