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Christians a few tips in your daily walk
« on: October 12, 2015, 05:11:22 PM »
Christians how often do you come across the clever chap who tells you,sorry mate forget Jesus/the bible/stop dreaming it's all a joke their is no God. He might ask "tell me how hot is hell " along with a string of daft quips.Just like you get on here.

 Well I ask this type of person.----Tell me how did we get here ? Back comes the reply evolution mate,fact.

 So I thought  I would share some of the questions, I share with this type of person.So Christian friends tell me what you think of the questions and let me have yours.
 
Here is my first question.------------   If it takes intelligence to make an arrowhead, why doesn't it take vastly more intelligence to create a human? Do you really believe that hydrogen will turn into people if you wait long enough?


          some of the questions are taken from other sites but a question is a question  complicated or not so, complicated

  what came first the chicken or the Egg    So Christians over to you. What questions do you have that stump these people.

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ps I never get many answers back.
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Re: Christians a few tips in your daily walk
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2015, 05:19:10 PM »
Christians how often do you come across the clever chap who tells you,sorry mate forget Jesus/the bible/stop dreaming it's all a joke their is no God. He might ask "tell me how hot is hell " along with a string of daft quips.Just like you get on here.

 Well I ask this type of person.----Tell me how did we get here ? Back comes the reply evolution mate,fact.

 So I thought  I would share some of the questions, I share with this type of person.So Christian friends tell me what you think of the questions and let me have yours.
 
Here is my first question.------------   If it takes intelligence to make an arrowhead, why doesn't it take vastly more intelligence to create a human? Do you really believe that hydrogen will turn into people if you wait long enough?


          some of the questions are taken from other sites but a question is a question  complicated or not so, complicated

  what came first the chicken or the Egg    So Christians over to you. What questions do you have that stump these people.

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ps I never get many answers back.

Probably because not many take you seriously including other Christians! ::)
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Re: Christians a few tips in your daily walk
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2015, 05:22:08 PM »
Like I said never get many answers back even easy ones So I think it might be good to dedicate this thread to the floos on this forum.

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« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2015, 05:22:55 PM »
You could be the poster child for who not to take seriously floo. (brother doli investigation Tom Ruffles)

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Re: Christians a few tips in your daily walk
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2015, 05:23:55 PM »
TW

If it takes intelligence to create an arrow head, what intelligence created your god?
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Re: Christians a few tips in your daily walk
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2015, 05:24:03 PM »
Spud,

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If it takes intelligence to make an arrowhead, why doesn't it take vastly more intelligence to create a human?

Evolution. It doesn't need an "intelligence" to occur.

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Do you really believe that hydrogen will turn into people if you wait long enough?

No, but nor would it need to for evolution to be true.

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what came first the chicken or the Egg

Neither.

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What questions do you have that stump these people.

None, but when questions are asked that are coherent and to which there is no answer available some people do more science to find out rather than call their ignorance "god" and worship it.

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ps I never get many answers back.

You have now. You'd get more too no doubt if ever you bothered to find out what evolution and evolutionary theory actually entail rather than post questions based on your ignorance of both.
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"Science is itself a process based on methodological naturalism, i.e. treating the world as if metaphysical naturalism was the case, but without actually taking a stand on matters philosophical (outside of method)."

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Philosophical_naturalism

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Re: Christians a few tips in your daily walk
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2015, 05:38:35 PM »
TW

If it takes intelligence to create an arrow head, what intelligence created your god?

 So you agree evolution  needs  intelligence/ life/design.

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ps------------------ Where did matter come from? What about space, time, energy, and even the laws of physics?
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Re: Christians a few tips in your daily walk
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2015, 05:58:07 PM »
TW,

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So you agree evolution  needs  intelligence/ life/design.

No, which is why I said he exact opposite of that.

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ps------------------ Where did matter come from? What about space, time, energy, and even the laws of physics?

First, those are separate matters to your ignorance about evolution.

Second, you're trying an argument from personal incredulity here and just special pleading "god" as the answer is logically hopeless.

Third, inasmuch as these things had to "come from" anywhere there are competing hypotheses about that that are being worked on as we speak. Why jump the gun and assert into existence an ancient superstition instead that you just happen to find comforting? 


"Science is itself a process based on methodological naturalism, i.e. treating the world as if metaphysical naturalism was the case, but without actually taking a stand on matters philosophical (outside of method)."

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Philosophical_naturalism

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Re: Christians a few tips in your daily walk
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2015, 06:00:54 PM »
No Christian has ever answered the following question sensibly therefore they are wrong ' who does the voluntary hillbilly eat fourteen happily?'

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Re: Christians a few tips in your daily walk
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2015, 06:24:15 PM »
Do you really believe that hydrogen will turn into people if you wait long enough?

It must have, I mean we are here aren't we ?  ;)

I like that one TW. How about where are all the transitional fossils?
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« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2015, 06:24:28 PM »
No Christian has ever answered the following question sensibly therefore they are wrong ' who does the voluntary hillbilly eat fourteen happily?'

Now nearly sane that is not true --far from nearly sane would be better------- you implied that God needed to be created OK.Lets run through this a super intelligence creates a super intelligence now the first super Intelligence now shortened to S-I we have not heard from him  but the 2nd S-I brings into being from outside of time,time and all we see thus we get creation In the Beginning God=S-I so creation.

 I can go along with your suggestion which makes evolution null and void but according to you this S-I that exists has laid out terms which screws you up completely and your scape goat of evolution has gone,

 So maybe another question to confirm I am right.        Motors do not work until each radically different component is completely developed, in its precise place, and a compatible energy source is available. So how could a bacterial motor evolve?


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« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2015, 06:26:39 PM »
Do you really believe that hydrogen will turn into people if you wait long enough?

It must have, I mean we are here aren't we ?  ;)

I like that one TW. How about where are all the transitional fossils?

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Re: Christians a few tips in your daily walk
« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2015, 06:30:09 PM »
TW, care to explain how 'who does the voluntary hillbilly eat fourteen happily?' imply anything about a god, whatever such a thing might be, would need to be created?

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Re: Christians a few tips in your daily walk
« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2015, 06:32:17 PM »
Do you really believe that hydrogen will turn into people if you wait long enough?

It must have, I mean we are here aren't we ?  ;)

I like that one TW. How about where are all the transitional fossils?

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« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2015, 06:33:59 PM »
What's depressing is that these 'questions' which some Christians ask - where are all the transitional fossils? for example, are not genuine at all.   They're dishonest.   If they really wanted answers, they would go off and read or find some resources, where they might get an answer.   But they don't.   

Here is a question:  why are some Christians so dishonest?
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« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2015, 06:35:56 PM »
2Corrie my prophecy about not getting any answers from these eggheads seems to be spot on

  eggheads try this---------------------   If macroevolution happened, where are the billions of transitional fossils that should be there? Billions! Not a handful of questionable transitions. Why don’t we see a smooth continuum among all living creatures, or in the fossil record, or both?


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Re: Christians a few tips in your daily walk
« Reply #16 on: October 12, 2015, 06:37:46 PM »
Another fake question from TW.  He's not interested in the answer at all, hence 'must go'.   He is always just about to go!
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Re: Christians a few tips in your daily walk
« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2015, 06:40:45 PM »
Once again we see Christians not only not answering the classic 'who does the voluntary hillbilly eat fourteen happily?' but even when they refer to it, they completely misrepresent what I have said.

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« Reply #18 on: October 12, 2015, 06:41:06 PM »
Another fake question from TW.  He's not interested in the answer at all, hence 'must go'.   He is always just about to go!

Just going wiggs no point in waiting for answers from you.One for you wiggs            Textbooks show an evolutionary tree, but where is its trunk and where are its branches? For example, what are the evolutionary ancestors of the insects?

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Re: Christians a few tips in your daily walk
« Reply #19 on: October 12, 2015, 06:42:45 PM »
Since you are still here TW any chance of explaining why you have completely misrepresented what I have said on this thread? Why did you do that?

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Re: Christians a few tips in your daily walk
« Reply #20 on: October 12, 2015, 06:44:58 PM »
Or indeed made a simplistic crack about my sanity?

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« Reply #21 on: October 12, 2015, 06:48:07 PM »
Or indeed made a simplistic crack about my sanity?

 Back for half hour your last two post are incomprehensible so more detail.I notice that you have been a bit slow along with your friends with answers,why am I not surprised.

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« Reply #22 on: October 12, 2015, 07:03:45 PM »
Or indeed made a simplistic crack about my sanity?

 Back for half hour your last two post are incomprehensible so more detail.I notice that you have been a bit slow along with your friends with answers,why am I not surprised.

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It really isn't that hard, TW, where did my post imply anything about your god needing to be created which you have stated I implied? That's the third time I have asked you a simple question about you misrepresenting me
 Why are you doing it? Is it simply that you are lying? Is it that you are so confused that you cannot work.out what is being said or who is saying it? Why did you make a simplistic joke about my sanity?



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« Reply #23 on: October 12, 2015, 07:14:10 PM »
Or indeed made a simplistic crack about my sanity?

 Back for half hour your last two post are incomprehensible so more detail.I notice that you have been a bit slow along with your friends with answers,why am I not surprised.

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It really isn't that hard, TW, where did my post imply anything about your god needing to be created which you have stated I implied? That's the third time I have asked you a simple question about you misrepresenting me
 Why are you doing it? Is it simply that you are lying? Is it that you are so confused that you cannot work.out what is being said or who is saying it? Why did you make a simplistic joke about my sanity?

 I am sorry it was Be Rational my mistake but as you can see I did accommodate his request and he seems to have fled.So once again my sincerest apologies.

Any way taking my stance of a  S-I type 2 it still leaves evolution stuffed.

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« Reply #24 on: October 12, 2015, 07:18:17 PM »
Or indeed made a simplistic crack about my sanity?

 Back for half hour your last two post are incomprehensible so more detail.I notice that you have been a bit slow along with your friends with answers,why am I not surprised.

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It really isn't that hard, TW, where did my post imply anything about your god needing to be created which you have stated I implied? That's the third time I have asked you a simple question about you misrepresenting me
 Why are you doing it? Is it simply that you are lying? Is it that you are so confused that you cannot work.out what is being said or who is saying it? Why did you make a simplistic joke about my sanity?

 I am sorry it was Be Rational my mistake but as you can see I did accommodate his request and he seems to have fled.So once again my sincerest apologies.

Any way taking my stance of a  S-I type 2 it still leaves evolution stuffed.

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Has he fled? Or just gone for tea? This claiming people have fled or have list the argument or whatever because they haven't replied to one immediately or indeed at all, as you have not to my question, is specious, as the question was meant to show. Note that doesn't matter who does it, it is the tactic of the playground.