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NicholasMarks

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Righteousness
« on: November 13, 2015, 01:06:07 PM »
Righteousness

We are all sinners and by the strong and indisputable laws that sin imposes upon us we are all suffering the pangs of distress that Jesus wanted to lift us out of. It is quite simple really and only requires us listening to and following what Jesus tells us…accurately.

There is an invisible force that Jesus describes as the spiritual embodiment of his father that created everything in the universe and all scientific laws must obey its demands. The accidental behaviour of life is one of those demands, hence sin, but by harnessing this property in the way Jesus taught us we are lifting ourselves out of the accidental nature of the science (sin) and making ourselves refined participants in the everlasting structure of this universal knowledge.

This is righteousness, then…following the science that Jesus Christ follows, and which his father sent him to deliver so that every generation since could tackle, by faith, the immense harm that evil would inflict, until we were able to understand the merits of God’s righteous science and make our own, informed decision, as to whether we want to be saved…or not.



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Re: Righteousness
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2015, 02:16:28 PM »
'Righteous science'  now I have heard everything! NM you are a little star, you are so funny! ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Righteousness
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2015, 03:31:23 PM »
Righteousness

We are all sinners and by the strong and indisputable laws that sin imposes upon us we are all suffering the pangs of distress that Jesus wanted to lift us out of. It is quite simple really and only requires us listening to and following what Jesus tells us…accurately.

There is an invisible force that Jesus describes as the spiritual embodiment of his father that created everything in the universe and all scientific laws must obey its demands. The accidental behaviour of life is one of those demands, hence sin, but by harnessing this property in the way Jesus taught us we are lifting ourselves out of the accidental nature of the science (sin) and making ourselves refined participants in the everlasting structure of this universal knowledge.

This is righteousness, then…following the science that Jesus Christ follows, and which his father sent him to deliver so that every generation since could tackle, by faith, the immense harm that evil would inflict, until we were able to understand the merits of God’s righteous science and make our own, informed decision, as to whether we want to be saved…or not.

Hi there NM, I can remember from some time ago, you seem to be totally unable to realise that if you assert anything the assertion then needs to have some kind of conclusive evidence that can back whatever assertion it is that you are making.

It doesn't look like your style has come to terms with this fact yet, so how do you think anything you assert can be taken seriously?

This post of yours is full of assertion without any credible evidence that might back it up, so unfortunately for you it's just another load of worthless assertion; find viable evidence for all of your many assertions and all should be well.

Don't worry to much about asserting biblical things without any evidence to back them up you're not on your own, have a look at Hope's posts for one, if anything he is in a worse position than yourself.

I'm sure you mean well NM but, where's the evidence and don't forget an assertion can't given as evidence for an assertion, (you seem to keep forgetting this point NM).

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« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2015, 03:42:49 PM »
When NM was posting before his long absence, he had a thread which ran for a few thousand posts, if my memory serves me correctly. He made the same assertions about 'dynamic energy' and the 'accurate teachings of Jesus', over and over again. I suppose he reckons if he says it often enough we will see it his way. ;)
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« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2015, 05:05:23 PM »
When NM was posting before his long absence, he had a thread which ran for a few thousand posts, if my memory serves me correctly. He made the same assertions about 'dynamic energy' and the 'accurate teachings of Jesus', over and over again. I suppose he reckons if he says it often enough we will see it his way. ;)

 ;D ;D  Well, he must have caught that of you, you being a leading light in the, "If I say it three times, it's true," brigade!
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Re: Righteousness
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2015, 11:34:34 AM »
When NM was posting before his long absence, he had a thread which ran for a few thousand posts, if my memory serves me correctly. He made the same assertions about 'dynamic energy' and the 'accurate teachings of Jesus', over and over again. I suppose he reckons if he says it often enough we will see it his way. ;)

 ;D ;D  Well, he must have caught that of you, you being a leading light in the, "If I say it three times, it's true," brigade!

And anyone banging on incessantly about bad language, must have caught that from Floo?
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Re: Righteousness
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2015, 11:46:21 AM »
We are all sinners

What is this 'sin'? Without knowing anything about, for example, my daughter, how can you know if she qualifies or not?

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and by the strong and indisputable laws that sin imposes upon us we are all suffering the pangs of distress that Jesus wanted to lift us out of.

Are these laws in the sense of natural laws discovered by scientific enquiry (and therefore provisional but reliable) or are they laws in the sense of a judiciary, and therefore culturally subjective and at the whim of the enforcing body?

What evidence do you have that we are 'all suffering the pangs of distress'?

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It is quite simple really and only requires us listening to and following what Jesus tells us…accurately.

I get the distinct impression I could swap out 'Jesus' in that for 'Depak Chopra' and not change it's value in the slightest.

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There is an invisible force that Jesus describes as the spiritual embodiment of his father that created everything in the universe and all scientific laws must obey its demands.

There's a green monster under my son's bed that he describes as "scribbly" on exactly the same evidence.

Please explain what 'spiritual' refers to - what is 'spirit'?

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The accidental behaviour of life is one of those demands, hence sin, but by harnessing this property in the way Jesus taught us we are lifting ourselves out of the accidental nature of the science (sin) and making ourselves refined participants in the everlasting structure of this universal knowledge.

So you aren't claiming that God created the universe and knew what he was doing? Our lives are 'accidental behaviour' - if that's the case, why does an all-powerful god feel that it's justified to deprive people or reward them based on 'accident'?

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This is righteousness, then…

Righteousness is a product of accident, got it.

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following the science that Jesus Christ follows, and which his father sent him to deliver so that every generation since could tackle, by faith, the immense harm that evil would inflict, until we were able to understand the merits of God’s righteous science and make our own, informed decision, as to whether we want to be saved…or not.

Science does not - can not - deal with 'faith'. Science works on a presumption of consistency in natural laws, on trust. Faith is the acceptance of a proposition in the absence of any demonstration of that consistency.

Saved from what? Death - why is death something to be saved from? There were billions of years before I was born, and I don't appear to have suffered any ill-effects from that, why should I fear being not alive after I'm dead?

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Re: Righteousness
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2015, 11:54:51 AM »
Outrider:

Faith is what you use when you can't understand something and so allow someone you trust to guide you. Science is very much deeper than our current knowledge but Almighty God says...don't worry...by faith I will guide you, through my son...Jesus Christ...and the rewards will be great because the cause of all distress will be permanently removed for your eternal lifetime because God's science embraces everlasting life.

I am just trying to share my insight because I, like Jesus, don't want to see anyone left out.

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Re: Righteousness
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2015, 12:03:55 PM »
Faith is what you use when you can't understand something and so allow someone you trust to guide you.

I prefer learning, exploration and investigating until I do understand. Of course, that's presuming there's something to explore or investigate - you're suggesting I follow something I can't see, and therefore need to have faith exists, to avoid something I can't see, and therefore need to have faith exists, because of something that's allegedly happened a long time ago that left no evidence so I have to have faith exists. Your God-Emperor has no clothes, Nick.

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Science is very much deeper than our current knowledge but Almighty God says...don't worry...by faith I will guide you, through my son...Jesus Christ...and the rewards will be great because the cause of all distress will be permanently removed for your eternal lifetime because God's science embraces everlasting life.

Whilst you might accidentally be right that science still has much to explore, nether you nor your God appear to understand what Science is - you don't need 'faith' for science, you need evidence (and rigourous peer review).

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I am just trying to share my insight because I, like Jesus, don't want to see anyone left out.

And I appreciate the sentiment, but I'm not blind, and so I don't need to join in this little 'sightless conga' you're attempting to start.

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