Blatter banned

[Hope]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/35144652

Am I right in thinking that this is only one possible ban that Blatter could face?  As I read it, it only relates to the improper payment to Michel Platini - who has also been banned for 8 years.  I assume that the cases being investigated by the US authorities are totally separate.

[jeremyp]

I think he could easily still go to jail.

[john]

Great

now all we have to do is ban professional soccer all together and the world we be a more peaceful place.

[Hope]

Great

now all we have to do is ban professional soccer all together and the world we be a more peaceful place.

I'd disagree; professional football has been of great benefit to many parts of the world.  Its the administrators who haven't always been.

[BeRational]

Great

now all we have to do is ban professional soccer all together and the world we be a more peaceful place.

Fine.

But leave football alone!

[jeremyp]

Fine.

But leave football alone!

Association football (soccer),  rugby football, gaelic football, American football or Aussie rules?

[BeRational]

Association football (soccer),  rugby football, gaelic football, American football or Aussie rules?

English, Scottish, and to be honest, the rest of the world football.

The game as it is known by the majority of people. That one!

[jeremyp]

English, Scottish, and to be honest, the rest of the world football.

The game as it is known by the majority of people. That one!

Ah, so the one john was referring to when he said soccer. You do realise you can't ban football and leave it alone at the same time?

[BeRational]

Ah, so the one john was referring to when he said soccer. You do realise you can't ban football and leave it alone at the same time?

Not worth arguing over.

Just to say that it is football not soccer.

No one calls it soccer .

[jeremyp]

Not worth arguing over.

Just to say that it is football not soccer.

Soccer is a perfectly reasonable alternative name.

No one calls it soccer .

Somebody did just up thread. You need to refine your hypothesis.

[BeRational]

Soccer is a perfectly reasonable alternative name.
Somebody did just up thread. You need to refine your hypothesis.

Its football NOT soccer.

Unless you are in the USA.

[jeremyp]

Its football NOT soccer.

Unless you are in the USA.

Soccer is a completely legitimate term for the game and it was coined in England.

[BeRational]

Soccer is a completely legitimate term for the game and it was coined in England.

No it's not.

Its football.

[jeremyp]

No it's not.

Its football.

You don't get to choose what words mean in the English language. Soccer is a legitimate name for football and your denials won't change that.

[Shaker]

You don't get to choose what words mean in the English language. Soccer is a legitimate name for football and your denials won't change that.

Goodness me. For myself I wouldn't have a clue which end of the bat/racket/club to hold if you paid me, but this football whatsit does seem to stir up some high passions, doesn't it?

[jeremyp]

Goodness me. For myself I wouldn't have a clue which end of the bat/racket/club to hold if you paid me, but this football whatsit does seem to stir up some high passions, doesn't it?

That's what makes it great.

Although this is just a pedantic argument about the meanings of words.

[BeRational]

You don't get to choose what words mean in the English language. Soccer is a legitimate name for football and your denials won't change that.

No it's not.

Its football.

[jeremyp]

No it's not.

You don't get to choose what words mean in the English language. Soccer is a legitimate name for football and your denials won't change that.

[BeRational]

You don't get to choose what words mean in the English language. Soccer is a legitimate name for football and your denials won't change that.

No it's not.

It's football.

[ad_orientem]

Not worth arguing over.

Just to say that it is football not soccer.

No one calls it soccer .

Except the Yanks but then they're odd. They call a game you play with your hands "football".

[ad_orientem]

No it's not.

It's football.

Agreed.

[ProfessorDavey]

You don't get to choose what words mean in the English language. Soccer is a legitimate name for football and your denials won't change that.

Jeremy - we've been through this on another thread at length.

The term 'soccer' is not and I don't think has ever been an accepted term for football amongst football fans. I have never known a British football fan who falls the sport they follow 'soccer'.

I suspect it never was acceptable, probably because it was coined by a person (Charles Wreford-Brown) who was desperate to keep football as a sport played only in elite public schools and elite universities, to be completely amateur and had a distain for spectators as he believed that the sport should only be played, not watched. Not surprising then that the teams and their fans gaining prominence during that time (1880s and 1890s) that were professional, working class, often from tough northern and midlands communities would saw Wreford-Brown as a hate figure and almost certainly hated his term 'soccer' which was synonymous with his version of the game (elite, amateur) than the game that took hold.

Bottom line, in Britain if anyone uses the term 'soccer' you know straight away that they aren't actually a football fan and often they are not just neutral towards football but look down on it, thinking it to be lesser than rugby or other sports.

[john]

Spot on Prof

"Bottom line, in Britain if anyone uses the term 'soccer' you know straight away that they aren't actually a football fan and often they are not just neutral towards football but look down on it, thinking it to be lesser than rugby or other sports."

It is a very silly games with no rules to punish bad behaviour, moron supporters can't even be trusted to sit together without fighting or spitting at each other, professional soccer has nothing whatsoever to do with sport it's main reason for existence is to make a handful of people at the top richer.

As opposed to "park soccer" which is great fun for kids and keeps em fit.

 

[ProfessorDavey]

Spot on Prof

"Bottom line, in Britain if anyone uses the term 'soccer' you know straight away that they aren't actually a football fan and often they are not just neutral towards football but look down on it, thinking it to be lesser than rugby or other sports."

It is a very silly games with no rules to punish bad behaviour, moron supporters can't even be trusted to sit together without fighting or spitting at each other, professional soccer has nothing whatsoever to do with sport it's main reason for existence is to make a handful of people at the top richer.

As opposed to "park soccer" which is great fun for kids and keeps em fit.

And given that you were the one who started the discussion by referring to football as 'soccer' you have rather proved my point about it only being used in Britain by people who aren't football fans and have a negative view of the game.

And well done for trotting out all the tired old stereotypes all in one go.

[Rhiannon]

Football acts like a brilliant social glue. In my lifetime I've seen rivalry between different sets of supporters change from nasty to good natured, apart from a hardcore of idiots. Football's got very good at laughing at the absurdity of itself, whether through programmes like Fantasy Football and Soccer AM - a style which has filtered through to football reporting across the board - satire on Newsthump or the way people use Twitter. It's taken the heat out of a lot of it.