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If books, why not music.... (Desert Island Discs)
« on: February 16, 2016, 06:11:25 PM »
I have noted before that my favourite thread is Sassy's music one, but I also like context. We have the book thread, which needs a bit of a kick up the eight(ies), but was thinking that a music one following the Desert Island format might work (obviously not for Floo)?


I'll ponder mine over a period or so and pop up

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Re: If books, why not music.... (Desert Island Discs)
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2016, 09:10:25 PM »
Do you mean choose eight recordings (not necessarily all music) a book and a luxury item?
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Re: If books, why not music.... (Desert Island Discs)
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2016, 09:29:31 PM »
Do you mean choose eight recordings (not necessarily all music) a book and a luxury item?

Pretty much. The music in particular and why
 The book is covered in other thread. The luxury item, pissibly.

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Re: If books, why not music.... (Desert Island Discs)
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2016, 10:46:21 PM »
NS,

Great idea. I'm in.
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Re: If books, why not music.... (Desert Island Discs)
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2016, 10:47:56 PM »
So am I, but bloody hell it's difficult  :(
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Re: If books, why not music.... (Desert Island Discs)
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2016, 10:53:50 PM »
So am I, but bloody hell it's difficult  :(

Yes - I started earlier this evening - I can fill my list exclusively with Shostakovich, or alternatively, exclusively with Paul Simon. What to do?   :-\
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Re: If books, why not music.... (Desert Island Discs)
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2016, 11:04:27 PM »
Yes - I started earlier this evening - I can fill my list exclusively with Shostakovich, or alternatively, exclusively with Paul Simon. What to do?   :-\
Have a large one or two and ponder?
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Re: If books, why not music.... (Desert Island Discs)
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2016, 11:06:36 PM »
Have a large one or two and ponder?

Well - I've had half a bottle of wine on a school night (uncharacteristically) and I'm not much closer except I've got to get Bach and John Le Mesurier in there somehow.
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Re: If books, why not music.... (Desert Island Discs)
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2016, 11:31:01 PM »
Yes - I started earlier this evening - I can fill my list exclusively with Shostakovich, or alternatively, exclusively with Paul Simon. What to do?   :-\
One of those is on my list ;)
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Re: If books, why not music.... (Desert Island Discs)
« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2016, 08:51:56 AM »
Trent,

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Yes - I started earlier this evening - I can fill my list exclusively with Shostakovich, or alternatively, exclusively with Paul Simon. What to do?   :-\

Simples - just include some of Shostakovich's little-known early work as one half of a slightly fey electro-acoustic folk duo ; - ) 
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« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2016, 10:41:29 AM »
Having decided last night I wasn't going to play mine appears to be the first up.  :o


Tired Pony - Ghost of the Mountain
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=c4D7VGqQd20
Superior piece of utter heartbreak from Gary Lightbody.

The Smiths - There is a Light that Never Goes Out
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n-cD4oLk_D0
My mate Dave said it was a load of crap. Then he fell in love. Then he got it.

Fairport - Who knows Where the Time Goes?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7bzXV1UPD80 (session version)
Could have gone for quite a few from Sandy Denny but went for this for its imagery which captured me from the moment I first heard it.

Kate Bush - The Man with the Child in his Eyes
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NAj8suae3WY
Best love song ever? Quite possibly.

Vaughan Williams - Dives and Lazarus
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RQoP9iLwoos
I've said before how this makes me mourn for the deep loss of something even though I don't know what that something is. So it must be important.

New Order - Blue Monday
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SVkq8IEO4tc
Shook my booty to this a great deal back in the day. Play it loud enough and I still do.

The Cure - This Twilight Garden
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PQp3oWdS7cw
Donned my black eyeliner back in the day too. Gorgeous love song from Robert Smith.
 
Clannad - Coinleach Glas an Fhomhair
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mReocm8kCK4
The sheer beauty of this always stops me in my tracks. This is the original folkier version.

Luxury item - Terry Waite chose a pencil for his and I agree, although I'd like a sharpener and notebook too. So call it a stationery set.

Book - I know NS said covered elsewhere but hey, as this is the closest I'm getting to doing it for real I'm doing it properly. I'd want to lose myself in a page turner to forget the misery of being somewhere hot so I'd go for a big fat Shardlake novel by CJ Sansome. Dissolution will do.





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Re: If books, why not music.... (Desert Island Discs)
« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2016, 12:46:38 PM »
At a different time and mood could be an almost entirely different set but for today




June Tabor - Love Will Tear Us Apart Again.

Was torn between this and the original but because I have seen this live by June it adds a memory. It's an extraordinary song, sad yet with a resilience that unfortunately couldn't get Ian Curtis through.

https://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=gpXv315wm-k


Echo Beach - Martha and the Muffins

A reminder of why being on a   desert island might be a good thing. And indeed of the time when I first heard it. From the first time it was embedded, I have had this as the song most played in my head.


https://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=SSOyxkHjwDE


Mozart's Serenade for Winds.

It's a beautiful piece anyway but I remember the scene that it is used Amadeus being played as a discussion point during an OU tutorial, and its longing and striving seemed to just at that precise point sum up how close we come to full connection with the noumenal but will always fall just short.


https://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=x4gXCsdFlbU

Donald O'connor and Gene Kelly - Moses Supposes


I love Singin in the Rain and this piece of nonsense is so madcap ebullient that it makes me smile, and laugh, and dance, and sing.


https://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=tciT9bmCMq8

James Grant - Walk the Last Mile


Hugely underrated in my opinion, just such a brilliant singer songwriter, I could have chosen any number of his songs. This is intertwined with so many memories of gigs.


https://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=MtY618gPRaE

John Martyn - May You Never

Awesome talent, with the curses of drink and drugs. This is such a gentle loving song

https://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=LOi_wxypeGc


Fred Astaire - The Way You Look Tonight


Beautifully crafted song, with the elegiac quality that gets me every time. The hard part is picking which version. Astaire isn't the greatest singer but somehow that makes this all the more powerful.

https://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=gsALgi5yM_A

Peggy Lee - Is That All There is?

How can cynicism be so beautiful. I was tempted to have He's A Tramp from Lady and The Tramp which she does so well but the bitterness here wins out.


https://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=LCRZZC-DH7M

If I can only have one song it is Echo Beach.


Book would be Confessions of a Justified Sinner by Hogg which I have written about on the book thread.

Luxury would be something with which I could kill myself painlessly.


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Re: If books, why not music.... (Desert Island Discs)
« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2016, 12:51:13 PM »
First two both much played on my iPod, NS. Love June Tabor's version of Love Will Tear Us Apart and considered the original before opting for New Order instead.

Forgot to pick my one and only. It's the Clannad song. Even though I can't speak, sing or understand Gaelic.

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Re: If books, why not music.... (Desert Island Discs)
« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2016, 01:00:26 PM »
Amazed looking at that no Bowie, no Sondheim, no Bach, no Billie, no Ella, no Kinks, dear Dawkins it's all wrong!

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Re: If books, why not music.... (Desert Island Discs)
« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2016, 02:21:04 PM »
tricky, but here goes

Ben Folds Five - Selfless cold and composed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8Ax3Yrdwpg
an important song in my teenage angst days, and I still find it haunting

Justice - Waters of Nazareth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SEgoi7kjw8
don't let the name fool you, this is not a religious track... unless you happen to find French electro-house spiritual. This is loaded with fat base, crunchy distortion and the most epic drop. I cant get enough of it.

Daft Punk - beyond
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T0NqvdUiWI
Daft Punk is where house music started for me. this track of their recent album is a sublime, effortless groove.

Chvrches - Clearest Blue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpFXXPruuqU
I like electro-dance music. Chrvches might not be the best out there but for me I think they must represent some sort of ideal. I can't quantify it but I listen to them relentlessly. If this comes on my ipod I can't concentrate on anything else.

church bells
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XBZnytOwOk
not exactly a track but I cant tell you how important this sound is to me. It used to drift in my bedroom window as a child. I always pause to listen and it makes me feel peaceful. My dad is a ringer and I intend to learn... some day.

Jimmy Yancey - The Yancey Special
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddmb7i7vipg
Boogie Woogie has been a part of my life since I was thirteen and this was the first track I learnt to play.

Sam Cooke - Nothing Can Change this Love
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3TkNgdUH8w
My wife and I love this and dance to it in the kitchen. Its the little things.

Chris Woods - One in a Million
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62--b0UW1xU
I find it hard to get through this without shedding a tear. It is beautiful storytelling at its finest.

If I had to save one then it would be Sam Cooke,

Book would be The Earthsea Saga by Urslua le Guin

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Re: If books, why not music.... (Desert Island Discs)
« Reply #15 on: February 22, 2016, 12:39:56 PM »
This is my list, as other have noted if it had been another/day/time/mood the list would be different, but this is it for now:

First choice is the Romance from The Gadfly by Shostakovich. I have been a great admirer of this composer ever since I studied his 5th Symphony at A level (too many years ago). He is often thought of as a "muscular" composer and yet he is capable of producing this sublime piece of beauty (one of many in his prodigious output).
https://youtu.be/Q0Xfyn0-YhU

Whilst on holiday in Torremolinos a few years ago we stumbled into a show bar where there was a drag act on miming perfectly to this piece by Rocio Jurado . I liked the music so much I had to go and ask the drag queen what the music was – lots of innuendo and embarrassment later I got the name of this wonderful singer, sadly no longer with us.
https://youtu.be/iiMeUtf5xQo

‘A Nightingale Sang in Berkley Square’ by John Le Mesurier – I have the album this was originally on – don’t know how I got it, no memory of buying it at all – but sums up a lot of the things I feel about being English – even if it is an outdated unfashionable view of same.
https://youtu.be/DFv1653s-pY

Alison Moyet – long been a favourite of mine – this is from the tour she did a couple of years ago with Vince Clarke when they reformed Yazoo. I could have chosen nearly any of her songs – but this is an oldie and still stands up pretty well today.
https://youtu.be/t3JoOjzo9jY

Paul Simon – wonderfully crafted songs – of which this is an example.
https://youtu.be/98H5xrUhqp8

Chopin – I spent 8 months working in Warsaw in 1995 and during the summer in the Lazienki Park in the centre of the city they have piano recitals in the Rose Garden – always Chopin. This is a reminder of warm, perfume filled mornings listening to beautiful music.
https://youtu.be/ef-4Bv5Ng0w

Paul McCartney – ok I know somw decry him – but he has been a fixture in our lives for so long that we tend to take his astonishing output for granted. Some howlers of course – but how could I not include this, Maybe I’m Amazed:
https://youtu.be/x_FiIilTwIA

Finally Dusty Springfield – always a voice to fall back on in my sadder hours. I close my eyes and count to ten:
https://youtu.be/ByqXqz7Tvqo

If I had to save only one it would be Shostakovich.

My book would be ‘On Beulah Heights’ by Reginald Hill.

Luxury would be a shaver. I can’t stand the scratching growth brings.



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Re: If books, why not music.... (Desert Island Discs)
« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2016, 10:10:14 AM »
This is my list, as other have noted if it had been another/day/time/mood the list would be different, but this is it for now:

First choice is the Romance from The Gadfly by Shostakovich. I have been a great admirer of this composer ever since I studied his 5th Symphony at A level (too many years ago). He is often thought of as a "muscular" composer and yet he is capable of producing this sublime piece of beauty (one of many in his prodigious output).
https://youtu.be/Q0Xfyn0-YhU

I'm still cudgelling my brains over my own list but as a quick by the way: the slow movement of the Second Piano Concerto is another relatively rare example of a highly Romantic, un-Shostakovich Shostakovich, not at all the sort of thing you expect if you're familiar with the symphonies and the string quartets - more Rachmaninov than Shostakovich:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUWP3KPLOao
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Re: If books, why not music.... (Desert Island Discs)
« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2016, 07:01:38 PM »
Great book choice, Trent.

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Re: If books, why not music.... (Desert Island Discs)
« Reply #18 on: March 02, 2016, 04:45:18 PM »
Desert Island eight

Mercedes Sosa

“Alfonsina Y El Mar”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elFfCLa6wNM

Rich, warm, earthy voice and a great tune


Franz Schubert

“Piano Trio in E flat, Opus 100”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VStRc-tgik

Astonishingly modern – written in the 19th C but could be Michael Nyman


Anna Moffo/Rachmaninoff

“Vocalise' Op. 34 No.14”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBVkYGLEUpg

A high note to make the hairs on your neck stand up


Dusty Springfield

“Wishin’ & Hopin’”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDKRKluMjSE

Of course. One of the best naturally soulful voices ever – I’m looking at my framed “A Girl Called Dusty” LP on my wall now


Van Morrison

“Did Ye Get Healed”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg94cXAqPcs

Like having a bath in warm golden syrup


Jessye Norman/Richard Strauss

Four Last Songs – “Im Abendrot”

Written when Strauss was 84, almost the last music he wrote. If you don’t feel this, you ain’t got no soul…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=envQ-ZqGQu8


Thomas Tallis (perf. Tallis Scholars)

“Spem In Alium”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iT-ZAAi4UQQ

Ethereally beautiful


Arvo Pärt

Alina

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg6amOEPa4U

So’s this, but minimally so


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Luxury item: Classical guitar
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Re: If books, why not music.... (Desert Island Discs)
« Reply #19 on: March 02, 2016, 08:22:46 PM »
A very appealing selection there BHS.

Today is coincidentally 17 years since Dusty Springfield died.

I don't know where those years went :'(
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Re: If books, why not music.... (Desert Island Discs)
« Reply #20 on: March 02, 2016, 09:24:13 PM »
Hi Trent,

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A very appealing selection there BHS.

Today is coincidentally 17 years since Dusty Springfield died.

I don't know where those years went

Thank you. Is it really 17 years? Wow! There's was a documentary about her on BBC 4 the other night - terrific stuff, made me quite wistful...what a voice she had.
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Re: If books, why not music.... (Desert Island Discs)
« Reply #21 on: March 11, 2016, 04:35:58 PM »
I thought choosing desert island books was bad enough; trying whittle items of music - one of the other mainstays of my daily life - down to just eight items has proved to be so difficult that I thought about not taking part in this thread as it was just an impossible job. Somebody else said that musical choice depends on mood and mood depends on the individual circumstances of any day, which means that there can probably never be a definitive list, only a provisional one. In that spirit, that's what I've provided - the eight items that as a castaway on my desert island I just couldn't do without and would listen to over and over and over again. After all, that's what I already do, unfortunately not on my own island.

I've bent the rules by defining several pieces grouped together (as in a box set) as one item. If it has several CDs and they all fit into one sleeve that sits on my shelves, that's one item. That's my interpretation of the rules and I'm sticking to it - anybody with a problem with that is welcome to consult my solicitor.

1. Jean Sibelius: Complete Symphonies - Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra conducted by Herbert von Karajan. There are many, many recordings of Sibelius symphonies ranging from the unbelievably dire (yes, I mean you, Mark Elder) to the good to the excellent to the superb. The Karajan recordings of all seven symphonies however are in a class apart. As a very old man Sibelius himself said that Karajan, then a young man, was the only conductor who truly understood his music. There's no higher praise from a composer than that, and the man was right. Recorded for Deutsche Gramophon over a number of years, these are that rare thing, the perfect, unimprovable-upon recordings.

2. Ralph Vaughan Williams: Complete Symphonies - Royal Liverpool Philharmonic Orchestra conducted by Vernon Handley. Same reason as with Sibelius: the best recordings of my other favourite symphony cycle by my equal favourite composer - even more so than the much older EMI recordings by Sir Adrian Boult (a personal friend of the composer). Boult was Tod Handley's teacher and it shows. Perfection, especially in the Third and the Fifth.

3. Dmitri Shostakovich: The Complete String Quartets. The Emerson Quartet recording is very highly regarded; mine is the older Fitzwilliam Quartet recording and my preferred personal favourite. Very likely the greatest cycle of string quartets ever written other than the late quartets of Beethoven, possibly even more so that the Bartok quartets. There's a cliche that the fifteen symphonies were the public Shostakovich whereas the quartets were the private Shostakovich. There's a lot wrong with that reading but to go into it would be of interest only to die-hard Shostakovich buffs (that's me and trent and nobody else); over all there's still something in it, given that these fifteen hefty quartets cover every nuance of feeling — from a tuneful Fourth (a good introduction to anybody interested in taking on the Shostakovich quartets) to the gruelling Thirteenth and the death-haunted Fifteenth.

4. Dmitri Shostakovich: The Complete Symphonies - WDR Orchestra conducted by Rudolf Barshai. Another symphony cycle conducted by a conductor known personally to the composer, so able to be authoritative with regard to the composer's own intentions. Shostakovich's fifteen huge symphonies are widely regarded in classical music circles as the greatest symphony cycle of the twentieth century, more so even than Mahler (who influenced Shostakovich massively).

5. The Rolling Stones - Sticky Fingers. Many people, Stones fans or otherwise, regard 1972's Exile on Main Street as the greatest Stones album ever recorded. Not to me it isn't; Exile is a very great album indeed but its predecessor the year before, Sticky Fingers, is to me the masterpiece. Along with #6, to me the greatest rock album ever made. 

6. Derek and the Dominos - Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs. Everybody knows Layla and its deathless riff; fewer know the double album on which it appears, a thinly-veiled vehicle for a publicity-shunning Eric Clapton trying to avoid superstardom and attempting to get back to being a member of a band. Very close to a concept album — a mixture of blues standards, original material and some covers (the version of the recently-deceased Jimi Hendrix’s Little Wing far outstrips the original, not something often said about Hendrix’s music) — tied together by Clapton’s obsessive infatuation with the model Pattie Boyd, at that time Mrs George Harrison … Clapton’s close friend. Recorded in Miami on a daily diet of suicidal obsession, cocaine, Johnny Walker, Clapton’s slowly growing heroin addiction and very little else, overall it’s perhaps the fiercest, most ferocious rock album ever made. The music critic Dave Marsh said of it: “… there are few moments in the repertoire of recorded rock where a singer or writer has reached so deeply into himself that the effect of hearing them is akin to witnessing a murder, or a suicide … to me, Layla is the greatest of them.”

As the list is so constrained I’m really struggling with the final two items — there’s Beethoven’s late string quartets and Dark Side of the Moon, but where does that leave Bach’s Musical Offering and The Stone Roses? If I throw in Bruckner’s Ninth Symphony and Highway 61 Revisited, where does that leave Shostakovich’s Piano Concerto No. 2 (or the Viola Sonata) and Abbey Road?

Then there's jazz - do I really want to, can I do without Kind of Blue (or even, far out man, roll a fat one and kick back, Bitches Brew - the monumental Spanish Key is music to get out of your tree on if ever there was, and goodness only knows I have, more times than I can remember) and Benny Goodman Live at Carnegie Hall?
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Re: If books, why not music.... (Desert Island Discs)
« Reply #22 on: March 12, 2016, 09:53:09 AM »
Shaker, if your selections break the rules then I for one don't care. A huge amount of information to think over and explore, well expressed.

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« Reply #23 on: March 12, 2016, 10:09:29 AM »