Brussels

[Leonard James]

And not only religion, LJ.  The same sentiment can be applied to Maoism/Stalinism/'Pol Pot'ism/etc.

As such, it seems to be a condition that is common to humanity whatever their philosophical outlook on life, which suggests that it is not directly linked to any given belief-system.

That is quite true, and imo is an indelible facet of being human. We can only try to control the extremists, punish their them for their wrongdoings, and teach all youngsters that harming others is wrong.

[JP]

What would you suggest instead?

Try to make sure there is no place name to fill in the blank.

[Bubbles]

Try to make sure there is no place name to fill in the blank.

 

No!

Je Suiss

Just means " I am"

Je Suiss Rose

Just means " I am Rose"

 

[JP]

No!

Je Suiss

Just means " I am"

Je Suiss Rose

Just means " I am Rose"

 

Well I never knew that so thanks for pointing it out (BTW it only has one "s", not two)

Not sure why, but I get the impression that particular post of mine has made a whooshing sound right across the top of your head.

[Bubbles]

Well I never knew that so thanks for pointing it out (BTW it only has one "s", not two)

Not sure why, but I get the impression that particular post of mine has made a whooshing sound right across the top of your head.

Just like the Je suis Brussels cartoon has gone over my head.

https://www.romper.com/p/cartoon-tributes-after-brussels-terror-attacks-show-je-suis-bruxelles-is-a-unified-cry-7533

Please scroll down to the first tweet with a bizarre cartoon of what appears to be some chips with a devils spear and a picture of a statue on a plinth peeing on a hiding Islamic terrorist..... ( yes I get the Belgian flag in its mouth) 

Anyone care to guess what the meaning is behind that? I'm somewhat at a loss 

Chips in a cone with Devils pitch fork, statue peeing on man in Arab dress. 

Perhaps you get it JP?

 

[Bubbles]

Ok

I get the statue now, but what is the relevance of chips? Another chip one amongst these.

http://qz.com/644935/je-suis-bruxelles-cartoons-have-again-become-a-way-for-people-to-process-terror/

[Udayana]

"Pommes frites" (chips) are a Brussels favorite / specialty - usually with mayonnaise.

[JP]

"Pommes frites" (chips) are a Brussels favorite / specialty - usually with mayonnaise.

Being held instead of a torch by the hand of a representation of the Statue of Liberty.

[ProfessorDavey]

Just like the Je suis Brussels cartoon has gone over my head.

https://www.romper.com/p/cartoon-tributes-after-brussels-terror-attacks-show-je-suis-bruxelles-is-a-unified-cry-7533

Please scroll down to the first tweet with a bizarre cartoon of what appears to be some chips with a devils spear and a picture of a statue on a plinth peeing on a hiding Islamic terrorist..... ( yes I get the Belgian flag in its mouth) 

Anyone care to guess what the meaning is behind that? I'm somewhat at a loss 

Chips in a cone with Devils pitch fork, statue peeing on man in Arab dress. 

Perhaps you get it JP?

 

I think these derivatives of 'Je sues Charlie' are missing the point. Je suis Charlie wasn't about a place or an individual but about an idea - saying Je suis Charlie means you stand up for freedom of speech, not Paris, or even a specific publication of people.

So I get a bit frustrated when people say we should now be saying Je suis Brussels, or Je suis Paris or Je suis Ankara - that's entirely missing the point of Je suis Charlie the whole point of which was it wasn't about a place or even a real person.

[Bubbles]

"Pommes frites" (chips) are a Brussels favorite / specialty - usually with mayonnaise.

Being held instead of a torch by the hand of a representation of the Statue of Liberty.

Ah! Thank you both 

[Jack Knave]

I disagree - what happened in Brussels is entirely different to the examples you gave.

What 'cause' was the plane pilot fighting for - I thought he was ill and suffering from depression and mental illness.

What 'cause' is the lone gunman perpetrating a shooting in a school fighting for - an individual deeply disturbed and often angry man, but there is no 'cause'.

The lone Nazi nutter is perhaps the nearest to having a 'cause' but in his case there was no orchestrated and concerted plan of attacks perpetrated by an organised group trying to impose their ideological views on others.

Sure all your cases involve multiple murder, but that doesn't mean they are all the same. The key difference with Brussels is it is ideologically driven and part of an orchestrated campaign.

A very Leftie analysis, and pretty much totally off the mark.

[Shaker]

"Leftie"? Oh dear. Well, a mindless slogan is a handy substitute for rational thought or considered analysis I suppose.

[Nearly Sane]

A very Leftie analysis, and pretty much totally off the mark.

Is it 'leftie' to describe the actions in Brussels as ideologically driven and part of an organised campaign? Pray tell, why you think so?

[Jack Knave]

That is quite true, and imo is an indelible facet of being human. We can only try to control the extremists, punish their them for their wrongdoings, and teach all youngsters that harming others is wrong.

Tell that to our Western leaders because they murder with impunity!!!

[Nearly Sane]

Tell that to our Western leaders because they murder with impunity!!!

Are they 'leftie' too?

[Jack Knave]

"Leftie"? Oh dear. Well, a mindless slogan is a handy substitute for rational thought or considered analysis I suppose.

It is not a slogan it is a position of thought and ideology that these people have to analyse the goings on in life, and it is wrong.

[Nearly Sane]

It is not a slogan it is a position of thought and ideology that these people have to analyse the goings on in life, and it is wrong.

that's nice, perhaps though you might want to hand the assertatron back to Alan Burns before you get too excited and paint it with your 10cc of man cream.

[Jack Knave]

Is it 'leftie' to describe the actions in Brussels as ideologically driven and part of an organised campaign? Pray tell, why you think so?

The root of all this goes back decades and further to the policies and actions of the West; specifically the US. The ideology is just a tag on to promote the cause of their hate of the West to the Islamic world. The actions of the West in the Middle East is the root of this and as the ME is predominately Muslim and it is these people who have been oppressed then it is this religion that has risen up against the western countries.

I'm not too sure that being organised is a unique thing that is a catalyst to causing extremes. The West is organised........ though mob rule and the crowd effect do play a part.

[Shaker]

The root of all this goes back decades and further to the policies and actions of the West; specifically the US.

Not widely regarded amongst the still-in-touch-with-reality as a notably "leftie" nation, I gather.

[Jack Knave]

Are they 'leftie' too?

I don't follow your logic here. People are the ones who do violence not just a certain label.

But in some sense they are leftie but also fascists at the same time....oh its so confusing 

[Jack Knave]

that's nice, perhaps though you might want to hand the assertatron back to Alan Burns before you get too excited and paint it with your 10cc of man cream.

The assertatron is with you, Nearly, with signs of your love affair with it by the stains that are present on it. 

[Nearly Sane]

The assertatron is with you, Nearly, with signs of your love affair with it by the stains that are present on it. 

Aw! Recycling a joke, still at least you are avoiding global warming

[Jack Knave]

Not widely regarded amongst the still-in-touch-with-reality as a notably "leftie" nation, I gather.

You took a wrong turn somewhere. You need to reread my posts to get back on track and understand what I'm saying.

[Nearly Sane]

I don't follow your logic here. People are the ones who do violence not just a certain label.

But in some sense they are leftie but also fascists at the same time....oh its so confusing 

It was a question, trying to follow your position.

[Jack Knave]

Aw! Recycling a joke, .....

You know all about that one, Nearly!!!