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JP

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Re: New Sectarianism
« Reply #25 on: March 29, 2016, 10:34:07 PM »
I dont get your first sentence.

Why did you name your thread new sectarianism?
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Re: New Sectarianism
« Reply #26 on: March 30, 2016, 04:40:23 AM »
  So a country that tolerates no disagreement which is what you seem to propose  is tolerant. There was this bloke that wrote of this type of attitude, wrote under the name Orwell, perhaps you've heard of him?

Disagreement is one thing, stabbing people is another.

When groups of people start encouraging violence against other groups, it doesn't make it a comfortable place to be.

Tolerant is what the victim was, as far as we know, he got stabbed because of it.


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Re: New Sectarianism
« Reply #27 on: March 30, 2016, 04:45:40 AM »
Apparently there is now a Facebook page celebrating his death and congratulating all Muslims

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3513888/Facebook-page-posts-Congratulations-Muslims-message-peace-loving-Islamic-shopkeeper-stabbed-death.html

This country needs to stamp down very hard on this sort of thing stabbing someone is not acceptable, nor is posting sick Facebook messages.

The sort of people that do this, don't want tolerance, they want to stir up a war.

We need to track them down and deal with them harshly.

They are trouble makers, in society. ( sharia law I think also deals harshly with this)

It's not about the wider group they belong to, and suppressing that, but suppressing the individuals that stir up trouble.

I'm appalled that someone can be stabbed because they are tolerant of others and even more appalled someone would put up a Facebook page celebrating their murder.

None of that is acceptable to me.



« Last Edit: March 30, 2016, 05:06:54 AM by Rose »

Bubbles

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Re: New Sectarianism
« Reply #28 on: March 30, 2016, 05:04:02 AM »
Apparently the Facebook page was created by a group called

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The Tahaffuz Khatme Nubuwwat movement is a community section which believes Ahmadis are blasphemers. It was born in Pakistan and says it aims to unite Muslims around the world.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3513888/Facebook-page-posts-Congratulations-Muslims-message-peace-loving-Islamic-shopkeeper-stabbed-death.html#ixzz44M5jEWgF
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If they are responsible for stirring this up or that Facebook page  they should be added to the long list of terrorist groups not permitted in the uk.

They have a headquarters in London according to the report.

I'd get rid of that for a start, send them ( the group headquarters) packing back to Pakistan and ban the group from the uk.

Trouble makers IMO.

We need to send some parts of the world a clear message, this sort of behaviour isn't acceptable in the uk and any group that encourages discord between different groups is not welcome here.

Freedom of speech does not include the right to stab someone and set up a Facebook page celebrating it.
« Last Edit: March 30, 2016, 05:08:18 AM by Rose »

Bubbles

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Re: New Sectarianism
« Reply #29 on: March 30, 2016, 05:18:59 AM »
This next report goes back to 2010 but highlights the hatred this group has stirred up in London alone.

http://www.yourlocalguardian.co.uk/news/local/wimbledonnews/8451429.Hate_campaign_discovered_against_Islamic_minority/

We don't need the headquarters based in London, if it was up to me, I'd send it packing.

It's nothing but trouble.


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Re: New Sectarianism
« Reply #30 on: March 30, 2016, 04:21:41 PM »
There are more "sub-sets" in the country than there has ever been. The country is becoming more fragmented because of this.
And that's because of multiculturalism and the stupid Leftie project that has swamped this country full of foreign incompatible cultures.

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Re: New Sectarianism
« Reply #31 on: March 30, 2016, 04:25:57 PM »
And is a unified country necessarily a good thing? There are few 'sub sets' in North Korea.
How would you know? Anyway that's a stupid argument!

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Re: New Sectarianism
« Reply #32 on: March 30, 2016, 04:33:40 PM »
And that's because of multiculturalism and the stupid Leftie project that has swamped this country full of foreign incompatible cultures.
Leftie [sic] seems to be your favourite snarl word of choice for whatever it is that you don't like.

Labour have been in power for 32/33 years of the 92 years since they first came to power in 1924. Otherwise it's been a coalition of one sort or another on two occasions (National Government1940-45; Tories and LibDems 2010-15; ten years in total) or the Tories outright.

Perhaps you need to drop the mindless slogans and look elsewhere.
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Jack Knave

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Re: New Sectarianism
« Reply #33 on: March 30, 2016, 04:47:04 PM »
Leftie [sic] seems to be your favourite snarl word of choice for whatever it is that you don't like.

Labour have been in power for 32/33 years of the 92 years since they first came to power in 1924. Otherwise it's been a coalition of one sort or another on two occasions (National Government1940-45; Tories and LibDems 2010-15; ten years in total) or the Tories outright.

Perhaps you need to drop the mindless slogans and look elsewhere.
No...and no.

Cameron is a Leftie. It has a particular meaning which is not necessarily the hard left or whatever. It refers to the mind set of the Western world.

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Re: New Sectarianism
« Reply #34 on: March 30, 2016, 05:09:20 PM »
And that's because of multiculturalism and the stupid Leftie project that has swamped this country full of foreign incompatible cultures.

Yup
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Re: New Sectarianism
« Reply #35 on: March 30, 2016, 05:13:03 PM »
A labour voter all my life until the latter days of the Blair / Brown era. By that time I had seen history repeat itself too many times and for a small number of reasons I will never vote labour again.

The lefties and those on the bit further right are mirror images of eachother, but only one despises the British.
How can something so perfect be so flawed.

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Re: New Sectarianism
« Reply #36 on: March 30, 2016, 05:17:21 PM »
No...and no.

Cameron is a Leftie. It has a particular meaning which is not necessarily the hard left or whatever. It refers to the mind set of the Western world.
Which is what exactly?
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Re: New Sectarianism
« Reply #37 on: April 01, 2016, 07:12:35 PM »
Which is what exactly?
It is all this political correctness which we even see in the US. What was the centre ground in the 80's is now on the right and what was on the left is now centre ground. It is a reasonable idea gone mad; and used by the elites and ruling classes to control the mindset and dialogue of the masses.

We see the ultimate sickness of it in the Rotherham police who were more concerned about not being called racists than helping under aged teenagers and kids who were being sadistically raped by some Pakis. There are eleven forces being investigated for similar dereliction of duty and concern. We also see this in the students who almost went off crying like little children when Germaine Greer aired a point of view that clashed with theirs and called for her talk to be band, instead of debating against her viewpoint as responsible adults.

We only see some semblance of common-sense and level headedness, and strong vociferousness, against this kind of madness from people on the right in the Conservatives; not Cameron and those in the centre of that party, and UKIP. But when they do this they are accused as being racists etc., using all the techniques those Leftie peoples have learnt to try to close down the debate. There are intelligent people on the left now who are also waking up to the insidiousness of what has been going on and are looking to correct thing.