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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #425 on: April 26, 2016, 12:45:35 AM »
How can you confirm any of this, "he was known through history"?

What's this about "a man being formed from the dust of the earth"?
 
It sounds like you're romancing about the magical, mystic days of yore, where superstition ruled due to the ignorance of the times, hasn't most of the modern world moved on from all of that dream like nonsense.

If you do by any chance decide to answer my post, is there any chance you could use modern day intelligable English, Because I still can't make out what the point is that you're trying to make?

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Somatids, a life form which is not bacterial, viral or fugal, but which instead belongs to a distinct domain unknown to modern science and medicine. We do know that Somatids are going to turn a person to dust?
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #426 on: April 26, 2016, 07:08:07 AM »
A person couldn't make this stuff up.

And yet you did.
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« Reply #427 on: April 26, 2016, 07:45:24 AM »
And yet you did.

In the constellation Coma (desired or the longed for), the Star of Bethlehem appeared. There was a traditional prophecy, well-known in the East, carefully preserved and handed down, that a new star would appear in this sign when he whom it foretold should be born. New stars have appeared again and again, but in 125 BC that a star, so bright as to be seen in the day-time, suddenly appeared. The second Adam (the promise seed of the woman Gen.3:25) was born, born is September.
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #428 on: April 26, 2016, 07:53:02 AM »
And yet you did.

In the constellation Coma (desired or the longed for), the Star of Bethlehem appeared. There was a traditional prophecy, well-known in the East, carefully preserved and handed down, that a new star would appear in this sign when he whom it foretold should be born. New stars have appeared again and again, but in 125 BC that a star, so bright as to be seen in the day-time, suddenly appeared. The second Adam (the promise seed of the woman Gen.3:25) was born, born is September.

And continue to....
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #429 on: April 26, 2016, 08:04:16 AM »
In the constellation Coma (desired or the longed for), the Star of Bethlehem appeared. There was a traditional prophecy, well-known in the East, carefully preserved and handed down, that a new star would appear in this sign when he whom it foretold should be born. New stars have appeared again and again, but in 125 BC that a star, so bright as to be seen in the day-time, suddenly appeared. The second Adam (the promise seed of the woman Gen.3:25) was born, born is September.


And continue to....

That star appearing in Coma is proof that Jesus was indeed born. But you continue to mock, just shows that Paul was right.
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #430 on: April 26, 2016, 08:57:51 AM »
That star appearing in Coma is proof that Jesus was indeed born. But you continue to mock, just shows that Paul was right.


None of the articles I read about what astronomical phenomena could account for the Bethlehem star story mention the constellation Coma Berenices at all, so where do you get the Coma theory from?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-20730828

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_of_Bethlehem

http://www.armaghplanet.com/blog/6-theories-about-the-star-of-bethlehem.html

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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #431 on: April 26, 2016, 10:12:43 AM »
Somatids are not cells and do not contain DNA or any kind of genetic material. But they seem to carry information. After death, all somatids present in the blood at that time will process to their macrocycle bringing the body into its basic elements (dust). The greenish mycelium on the surface of the dead body is the somatids in action. The decaying process of the body is caused by the polymorphism of somatids.

Somatids, a life form which is not bacterial, viral or fugal, but which instead belongs to a distinct domain unknown to modern science and medicine. We do know that Somatids are going to turn a person to dust?

You're a very strange person NN, why do you bother posting when everything you write is nonsense.

I last met someone with a similar turn of phrase about 50 years ago, I  wrote him off as well; do you rember Stanly Unwin, at least he spoke a load of old bollocks for the fun of it and managed to make a bit of a name for himself, and a few bob out of it too.

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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #432 on: April 26, 2016, 10:13:28 AM »
Dear Newnature,

How you doing, enjoying the forum, good, good, remember you have to bring your own tea and biscuits :P

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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #433 on: April 26, 2016, 10:32:04 AM »
Gonners,

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How you doing, enjoying the forum, good, good, remember you have to bring your own tea and biscuits :P

Is that because the medics are on strike?
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #434 on: April 26, 2016, 10:43:10 AM »
Gonners,

Is that because the medics are on strike?

That hit the giggle muscle, full square on, like it, one of your better one liners Blue.

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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #435 on: April 26, 2016, 11:24:40 AM »
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Is that because the medics are on strike?

 ;D ;D

No, Rhiannon is using the tea and biscuit funds for nail polish and Gordon and Horsethorn are busy stocking up the their drinks cabinet, good news though, I did hear Humphs subscription to Gay news was vetoed, his story about "purely research" was not believed. ::)

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« Reply #436 on: April 26, 2016, 11:48:58 AM »
You're a very strange person NN, why do you bother posting when everything you write is nonsense.

I last met someone with a similar turn of phrase about 50 years ago, I  wrote him off as well; do you rember Stanly Unwin, at least he spoke a load of old bollocks for the fun of it and managed to make a bit of a name for himself, and a few bob out of it too.

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I think nn enjoys winding people up with his garbage.

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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #437 on: April 26, 2016, 11:53:33 AM »
Dear Floo,

As long as he is enjoying himself ::) ::)

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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #438 on: April 26, 2016, 12:39:37 PM »
The figure Hypocatastasie for grave. This grave is something much more real and truer to truth is intended.

You're a bit of a numpty, aren't you?

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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #439 on: April 26, 2016, 12:40:42 PM »
Mitochondria, with their own DNA, they replicate on their own. Somatids are not cells and do not contain DNA or any kind of genetic material. But they seem to carry information.

Midichlorians, not mitochondria.

Cultural reference fail.

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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #440 on: April 26, 2016, 01:06:56 PM »
Midichlorians, not mitochondria.

Cultural reference fail.

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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #441 on: April 26, 2016, 02:06:29 PM »
You're a bit of a numpty, aren't you?

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Just a thought H, what if he's actually being serious?

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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #442 on: April 26, 2016, 02:15:02 PM »
Dear ippy,

You can be serious and a numpty, some on this forum are evidence of that, myself included, but the word numpty sometimes does not do justice to what some of the serious ones are.

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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #443 on: April 26, 2016, 02:27:28 PM »
Dear ippy,

You can be serious and a numpty, some on this forum are evidence of that, myself included, but the word numpty sometimes does not do justice to what some of the serious ones are.

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I just wonder if he might slip up and include the word 'dynamism' in one of his sentences, well at least that would be an explaination, Gonners.

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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #444 on: April 26, 2016, 02:55:05 PM »
Dear ippy,

Oh yes! there are hints in there of our very own Nicholas, come out newnature and show your true colours, maybe he is a follower of our Nick, if so he owes me some membership money, I am the President of the NicholasMarks fan club :P

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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #445 on: April 26, 2016, 04:01:29 PM »
Let's say the universe is that old, but the earth is older than that. The cave people during the fifth ‘a day’ in Genesis, that fifth ‘a day’ took around four and half billion years. Look at the cave people, God did not create them in his image. Being created in the image of God means that we must view ourselves as intrinsically valuable and richly invested with meaning, potentially and responsibilities. We are to be and to do on a finite scale, what God is and does on an infinite scale.

By virtue of being created in the image of God, human beings are capable of reflecting his character in their own life; animals possess none of these qualities. What distinguishes people from animals is the fact that human nature inherently has godlike possibilities.

Omniscience, omnipotence, or omnipresence, none of these other divine attributes have been ascribed to the human race as part of the image of God. We have been created to reflect God in our thinking and actions, but the physical sustained by God and dependent upon him for our existence in this world and in the world to come. Developing a godly character in this present life, this will be our personal identity in the world to come. It is the character or personality that we have developed in this life, that God preserves in his memory.

So these cave people, they would have to have everything we have, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mtLXpgjHL0&feature=related

These cave people would not have had a God conscious, like God has given to the human race a God consciousness, the conscious perception that we could say that there is a God somewhere and that ultimately the human race is accountable to that God.

Nothing made it out alive when the fifth 'a day' came to an end. In the sixth 'a day' God created blood life in the whales. Once something is created, all God has to do breath it into a body.

Science remains our best and most successful way of explaining natural phenomena.

It comes from years of observation, measurement, experimentation, peer testing, etc.  Which, I hasten to add, is a far better way of explaining observable phenomena than crediting it to superstitious mumbo jumbo.
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #446 on: April 26, 2016, 04:03:45 PM »
Wrong. Midichlorians are not from The Culture but from the Star Wars Universe.

Ooh - crossover story! :)

Still less of a fantasy than some of nn's comments...

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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #447 on: April 26, 2016, 05:32:25 PM »

None of the articles I read about what astronomical phenomena could account for the Bethlehem star story mention the constellation Coma Berenices at all, so where do you get the Coma theory from?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-20730828

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_of_Bethlehem

http://www.armaghplanet.com/blog/6-theories-about-the-star-of-bethlehem.html

It was this new star in Coma that caused Hipparchus to draw up his catalogue of stars, which has been handed down by Ptolemy (150).

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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #448 on: April 26, 2016, 06:06:38 PM »
You're a very strange person NN, why do you bother posting when everything you write is nonsense.

I last met someone with a similar turn of phrase about 50 years ago, I  wrote him off as well; do you rember Stanly Unwin, at least he spoke a load of old bollocks for the fun of it and managed to make a bit of a name for himself, and a few bob out of it too.

ippy

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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #449 on: April 26, 2016, 06:30:16 PM »
You're a bit of a numpty, aren't you?

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Just trying to see where figures of speech are used in your myth story.
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