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« on: July 24, 2016, 10:05:24 PM »
Did anyone see the Andrew Marr Programme today?

It included an interview with Paddy make Ashdown about a new popular (as in "relating to people") movement called MoreUnited, whose intention is to bring humanity back into politics. It is not a political party and is open to people in all political parties but is about making political parties behave in the interests of the electorate rather than the political elite.

There is a website MoreUnited.com

Any thoughts?
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Re: MoreUnited
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2016, 10:07:47 PM »
Did anyone see the Andrew Marr Programme today?

It included an interview with Paddy make Ashdown about a new popular (as in "relating to people") movement called MoreUnited, whose intention is to bring humanity back into politics. It is not a political party and is open to people in all political parties but is about making political parties behave in the interests of the electorate rather than the political elite.

There is a website MoreUnited.com

Any thoughts?
Sounds interesting, but when I tried to log onto the site you quoted, all I got was a site telling me that the domain was for sale.
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Re: MoreUnited
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2016, 10:13:40 PM »
Sounds interesting, but when I tried to log onto the site you quoted, all I got was a site telling me that the domain was for sale.
Try this


http://www.moreunited.uk/

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« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2016, 10:20:24 PM »
Try this


http://www.moreunited.uk/
Thanks for that, NS.  I did wonder whether it was the wrong domain suffix (or whatever the .co/.co.uk/etc. suffix is called)
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« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2016, 10:58:15 PM »
Looks good on paper.  Very idealistic.  I can't see anything against it at the moment.
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« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2016, 12:45:50 AM »
Did anyone see the Andrew Marr Programme today?

It included an interview with Paddy make Ashdown about a new popular (as in "relating to people") movement called MoreUnited, whose intention is to bring humanity back into politics. It is not a political party and is open to people in all political parties but is about making political parties behave in the interests of the electorate rather than the political elite.

There is a website MoreUnited.com

Any thoughts?

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« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2016, 02:02:53 AM »
I did wonder whether it was the wrong domain suffix (or whatever the .co/.co.uk/etc. suffix is called)
Top level domain or TLD for short
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« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2016, 05:32:17 AM »
Apologies.

It is MoreUnited.uk

sorry, but I am in south west France at the moment trying to operate with an iPad and not being particularly successful.

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Why is trying to bring some humanity into politics a bad idea? Is it forbidden in Leviticus or something?
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« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2016, 07:19:26 AM »
I think it is a very good idea and Paddy Ashdown always strikes me as a man of integrity.   I don't know if it will work.....but worth a try surely.  It's good to have something independent of party politics that is passionately idealistic.

Has this idea, or something like it, been proposed before though?  It seems familiar.
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« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2016, 07:28:52 AM »
Apologies.

It is MoreUnited.uk

sorry, but I am in south west France at the moment trying to operate with an iPad and not being particularly successful.

Sassy

Why is trying to bring some humanity into politics a bad idea? Is it forbidden in Leviticus or something?

We need a Party listening to the British People who can vote. Not someone feeling sorry and catching a ride to power and then reneging on what they promised.
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« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2016, 07:48:12 AM »
We need a Party listening to the British People who can vote. Not someone feeling sorry and catching a ride to power and then reneging on what they promised.

Why don't you switch on your brain before you respond to proposals you don't really understand?

You haven't a clue about what MoreUnited is about. It is about making Parliament more responsive and more responsible. It's about having a government system which meets the needs of people not a self-serving, self-electing elite.



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« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2016, 09:03:18 AM »
If it works, it could be a good way of financing support of the middle ground of politics and then the formation of a new party of the centre.  At a time when the world population is expanding rapidly I would like to see what the views are on defence and law and order.

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« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2016, 09:14:15 AM »
We need a Party listening to the British People who can vote. Not someone feeling sorry and catching a ride to power and then reneging on what they promised.

Never mind Sass it is all a little bit much for your poor brain to take in.

I think it is a good idea.

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« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2016, 10:51:27 AM »
Sounds interesting but is still very vague. Not sure how it is "going to transform the way politics is funded". 

Why pay money to an intermediary who will decide how to spend or distribute it - if that is way it is going to work?  Even systems similar to "justgiving" which can provide a platform for sending payments to charities that you can select have significant overheads.
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« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2016, 11:54:34 AM »
Why don't you switch on your brain before you respond to proposals you don't really understand?

That switch was broken a long, long time ago!
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« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2016, 07:30:55 PM »
I think, as long as we have First Past the Post, we need to make constituency MPs more accountable to their constituencies. My suggestion is regular summaries of how local MPs are doing against their promises in the election on the local news channels and in the media and the power for the constituency to hold a recall vote.

This will break some of the power of the party whips and will make the MPs be more representative of their constituents on pain of being fired.
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« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2016, 08:42:42 PM »
I think, as long as we have First Past the Post, we need to make constituency MPs more accountable to their constituencies. My suggestion is regular summaries of how local MPs are doing against their promises in the election on the local news channels and in the media and the power for the constituency to hold a recall vote.

This will break some of the power of the party whips and will make the MPs be more representative of their constituents on pain of being fired.

MPs and even ministers don't run the government, the top civil servants do.  They can say what they like when trying to get elected but they are soon put in their place when they try their wild ideas.

People seem to think a guy can change from Education or Transport straight into Health or Environment and start putting their ideas into practice.  They can't.  They can tell their Heads of Department (guys who have been working in that part of government for many years and are experts) what they would like to do, but their choices are limited to what's possible and practical - and what the Treasury will allow.  Then it has to pass the Cabinet and the PM.

So please don't start let us start publishing in the media the things they promised but couldn't make happen. 

Why do they promise things in the first place?  Purely because if they didn't, someone else who did would get elected.   Would you vote for someone who promised nothing at all?  It's better to look at their promises as their hopes, dreams and inspirations, we all have those, we're only human.

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Re: MoreUnited
« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2016, 10:53:55 AM »
It all seems a bit wishy washy to me.

They want me to give them money to fund a politician they like, but I may not. Presumably taking a cut along the way to cover expenses.

If I were to fund a politician I would rather pick him/her myself.

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« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2016, 04:15:56 PM »
MPs and even ministers don't run the government, the top civil servants do.
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They can say what they like when trying to get elected but they are soon put in their place when they try their wild ideas.

My idea is not about how the government works but about getting MPs to be more representative of their constituents.

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So please don't start let us start publishing in the media the things they promised but couldn't make happen.

You think it would be a bad idea to expose MPs failed promises? That's a first.
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« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2016, 08:33:35 PM »
You can join without giving any money John,  It will be several months before the start fundraising and that would give you enough time to see if it is worthwhile or not.
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« Reply #20 on: July 26, 2016, 11:18:38 PM »
Why don't you switch on your brain before you respond to proposals you don't really understand?

It wasn't about what I understood it was simply my opinion.
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You haven't a clue about what MoreUnited is about.

I read some independent reports and I can see through the front and what is behind it.
Maybe you could look further.

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It is about making Parliament more responsive and more responsible. It's about having a government system which meets the needs of people not a self-serving, self-electing elite.
You tell yourself that... It is self deceiving and unworkable.

It is always about power and that kind of response is dangerous to say the least in a democratic society. If you can't see why you should not be taking part.




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Re: MoreUnited
« Reply #21 on: July 26, 2016, 11:19:38 PM »
Never mind Sass it is all a little bit much for your poor brain to take in.

I think it is a good idea.

Again,,,no one to explain it to you or tell you what to say... How are the prostitutes?
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« Reply #22 on: July 26, 2016, 11:20:35 PM »
How to part fools and their money... 8)
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« Reply #23 on: July 27, 2016, 12:41:01 AM »
Again,,,no one to explain it to you or tell you what to say... How are the prostitutes?

 :D ;D ;D

What on earth brought that on?
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« Reply #24 on: July 27, 2016, 08:30:54 AM »
Looks good on paper.  Very idealistic.  I can't see anything against it at the moment.

It sounds an nice idea in principle, but I can't see how it would work in practice.
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