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Walter

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Re: "I want to see the world through an atheist lens"
« Reply #50 on: November 18, 2016, 05:31:24 PM »
An example - for years now I've taken my grandkids swimming every Sunday morning: I taught the older two to swim this way and now the eldest is too cool to go swimming so the 3 year old comes with his older sister - it has been a good use of Sunday mornings.

Sunday afternoon I'n normally amble over to the bookies for a couple of hours (Sunday racing has been the norm for years now), then we tend to do the weekly shop on Sunday evenings. I'd say my Sundays are fine by my standards.

I don't want to stop people doing their thing as I do mine: I don't care if they go to church, go shopping or do nothing at all - so why should they care about how I choose to spend my Sundays?
lets open this up a bit . I spent a long time in Australia recently Sunday is a family bbq on the beach day , there is a big world out there. almost bigger than this screen you are looking at

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Re: "I want to see the world through an atheist lens"
« Reply #51 on: November 18, 2016, 05:56:53 PM »
You said 'Yes it does' not 'Yes it might'. If it might then it might not. Unless you can show a direct lionk between beliefs and poor decision making then you cannot draw the conclusion that you did.

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Re: "I want to see the world through an atheist lens"
« Reply #52 on: November 18, 2016, 07:58:48 PM »
Dear Brownie,

Me to! But they are a very tight lipped community, any discussion soon turns to us silly theists, how so irrational we all are, trouble is that is a human default position, we all are, atheist and theist, irrational, may be it is a sliding scale, us theists are totally irrational and the atheists are just a wee bit irrational :P :P

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Re: "I want to see the world through an atheist lens"
« Reply #53 on: November 18, 2016, 09:33:02 PM »
Dear Sane,

Hmmm! So you would say your atheism does not affect any other part of your life?

What about Sunday opening times? If you had kids would you ban them from school assembly if it was mostly religious? What about those fat Bishops that sit in the house of Lords, do you think intelligent designers have any place in science, if your local MP was a born again Christian type would that sway how you voted?

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What about Sunday opening times? My views aren't based upon the fact that I don't believe in any gods.

What about school assemblies? Ditto.

What about the power of the Bishops, sitting in the HoL? Ditto.

What about intelligent design? Ditto.

What about my local MP? Ditto.
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Re: "I want to see the world through an atheist lens"
« Reply #54 on: November 19, 2016, 01:05:11 AM »
Dear Gordon,

But we are not free to spend our Sundays quietly, how could I spend my Sunday quietly when you and the wonderful Mrs G ( the lady must be wonderful to put up with you racing around the countryside with your beard on fire ) and all the rest of the Sunday shoppers are firing up their petrol guzzling environment unfriendly little tin boxes to go and worship and Tesco
Would you rather ban all forms of transport on a Sunday in order to preserve everyone's peace and quiet?
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Re: "I want to see the world through an atheist lens"
« Reply #55 on: November 19, 2016, 07:22:17 AM »
Wouldn't it be nice to have at least one day a week; free of commercialism/consumerism and go smell the flowers?
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Re: "I want to see the world through an atheist lens"
« Reply #56 on: November 19, 2016, 01:07:36 PM »
Wouldn't it be nice to have at least one day a week; free of commercialism/consumerism and go smell the flowers?
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Re: "I want to see the world through an atheist lens"
« Reply #57 on: November 21, 2016, 06:54:50 PM »
Dear Seb,

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Would you rather ban all forms of transport on a Sunday in order to preserve everyone's peace and quiet?

No! I would rather discuss the subject in a calm and considerate manner, not go to extremes! For instance, lets keep the big players open on a Sunday but they supply, free of charge, little buses ( or big buses ) which ferry customers to and from their stores on Sundays, I am open to any idea which makes any day of the week, less stressful, more community like and helps the environment.

Or we could just argue that those bloody theists think we should have one day to worship their God who I think does not exist.

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Re: "I want to see the world through an atheist lens"
« Reply #58 on: November 22, 2016, 08:11:40 AM »
Dear Jeremyp,

This is why I enjoy this forum, I want to see the world through Islamic, Hindu, Buddhist eyes, it is why I enjoy a Gabriella, Sriram and Wigganhall Post ( the Wigs likes to chunter on about Buddhist stuff ).
And yet you seem blind to the fact that they might prefer a different day to Christians for their day off.

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Yes. And forcing shops to close on a particular day is impinging on someone else's freedom.
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Re: "I want to see the world through an atheist lens"
« Reply #59 on: November 22, 2016, 09:24:22 AM »
Dear Jeremyp,

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And yet you seem blind to the fact that they might prefer a different day to Christians for their day off.

Nope! And religion is only one part of the equation/debate.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/susan-steinbrecher/why-our-247-connected-society-is-driving-us-farther-apart_b_5185925.html

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2007/nov/11/comment.comment1

But of course I could be victim to browsing the internet to find links that back up my argument, I would be only to willing to read anything that says a 24/7 society is a good thing.

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Yes. And forcing shops to close on a particular day is impinging on someone else's freedom.

You can please some of the people..................

All I am arguing for is a holistic approach to the question, should we have one day free from consumerism?

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Re: "I want to see the world through an atheist lens"
« Reply #60 on: November 22, 2016, 10:54:21 AM »
Dear Jeremyp,

Nope! And religion is only one part of the equation/debate.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/susan-steinbrecher/why-our-247-connected-society-is-driving-us-farther-apart_b_5185925.html







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All I am arguing for is a holistic approach to the question, should we have one day free from consumerism?

Gonnagle.
at last I find something I agree with you on. I despise consumerism however to have one recognised day we all agree on would be impossible .

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Re: "I want to see the world through an atheist lens"
« Reply #61 on: November 22, 2016, 10:56:06 AM »
sorry my quote box didn't work


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