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Re: UK's greatest sportsperson
« Reply #25 on: December 11, 2016, 12:17:06 PM »
Perhaps, although there seem to be plenty of rugby and cricket knights. Interesting that not one of the rugby knights played rugby league rather than rugby union.

Is that a reflection of the sports' public profiles though?
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Re: UK's greatest sportsperson
« Reply #26 on: December 11, 2016, 01:08:59 PM »
Is that a reflection of the sports' public profiles though?
I don't know, although whether rugby union or rugby league has a higher profile depends on where you live and (whisper it quietly) whether you are working class or middle class.

But the public profile thing doesn't really work when you look at yachting does it - piles of knights but hardly what one would call a high profile sport.

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Re: UK's greatest sportsperson
« Reply #27 on: December 11, 2016, 05:03:08 PM »
so you have just told every one Scottish that they think they can't be British! Care to try expressing yourself again?
Change 'can't' to 'shouldn't be', and you're getting closer to the truth, NS.
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Re: UK's greatest sportsperson
« Reply #28 on: December 11, 2016, 05:07:33 PM »
Change 'can't' to 'shouldn't be', and you're getting closer to the truth, NS.
spit it out and just say what the actual truth is.
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Re: UK's greatest sportsperson
« Reply #29 on: December 11, 2016, 07:15:06 PM »
spit it out and just say what the actual truth is.
I couldn't have made it much clearer in my original poist, Seb - and I've shown how NS needs to amend his post to get to the nub of my comment.
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Re: UK's greatest sportsperson
« Reply #30 on: December 11, 2016, 08:23:28 PM »
I couldn't have made it much clearer in my original poist, Seb - and I've shown how NS needs to amend his post to get to the nub of my comment.
Maybe I am being a bit slow today. Are you saying that the Scottish people think that they shouldn't be British?
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Re: UK's greatest sportsperson
« Reply #31 on: December 12, 2016, 11:10:26 AM »
Change 'can't' to 'shouldn't be', and you're getting closer to the truth, NS.
why should I change it from 'can't' when you use can in your lazy and incorrect generalization about Scottish people?
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Re: UK's greatest sportsperson
« Reply #32 on: December 12, 2016, 11:23:53 AM »
I don't know, although whether rugby union or rugby league has a higher profile depends on where you live and (whisper it quietly) whether you are working class or middle class.

But the public profile thing doesn't really work when you look at yachting does it - piles of knights but hardly what one would call a high profile sport.

But overall in terms of coverage in the UK Union is more prominent and the class difference is dependent also on location. Looking at the list, perhaps the combination of the team sport and the lack of achievement at international level has had an impact. Other than the mistake of not giving Bobby Moore a peerage, no British footballer has arguably had the type of success at the highest level that would deserve it. As for Rugby Union, a majority of the Sirs are New Zealand, indeed over many of the honours there are a comparatively  high number of New Zealanders (the only one in equestrianism). This carries over into cricket with a good number of the Sirs being from Commonwealth countries.