Author Topic: Northern Ireland election results  (Read 3751 times)

Sebastian Toe

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Re: Northern Ireland election results
« Reply #25 on: March 06, 2017, 09:19:28 PM »

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You are clearly not in touch with the quagmire of NI politics.
You might want to check your spellchecker. It seems to want to replace 'reality' with ' the quagmire of NI politics.'  ;)
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Re: Northern Ireland election results
« Reply #26 on: March 06, 2017, 09:36:27 PM »
I didn't think JK had a conception of reality.
"for, as long as but a hundred of us remain alive, never will we on any conditions be brought under English rule. It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself."

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Re: Northern Ireland election results
« Reply #28 on: March 07, 2017, 07:52:02 PM »

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You are clearly not in touch with the quagmire of NI politics.
That's beside the point with regards to who voted in the referendum. The fact that "other" politics are tangentially attached to it in retrospect is another matter, which I'm well aware of.

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Re: Northern Ireland election results
« Reply #29 on: March 07, 2017, 09:47:21 PM »
That's beside the point with regards to who voted in the referendum. The fact that "other" politics are tangentially attached to it in retrospect is another matter, which I'm well aware of.
That's beside the point with regards to who voted in the referendum. The fact that "other" politics are tangentially attached to it in retrospect is another matter, which I'm well aware of.


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I think you'll find that almost all politics relate to the rather peculiar divide in the province.
"for, as long as but a hundred of us remain alive, never will we on any conditions be brought under English rule. It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself."

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Re: Northern Ireland election results
« Reply #30 on: March 27, 2017, 10:34:09 AM »
So the theoretical deadline on the forming a govt is today, and we don't look likely to get one. I suspect that we may see a lot of procrastination from the UK govt. Direct rule is not going to be something they will want on their plate and another election is unlikely to change the structure so much as to move on.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-39401488

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Re: Northern Ireland election results
« Reply #31 on: March 27, 2017, 01:42:20 PM »
IMHO one more generation & the Green vote will outnumber the Orange vote. I only wish that those who advocated non violence had triumphed,but it seems that they will not.

I won't shed any tears at NI leaving the UK, I simply wish good luck to those who in future will have to pay for it.

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Re: Northern Ireland election results
« Reply #32 on: March 27, 2017, 04:18:05 PM »
In another generation, there will be hardly anyone who advocated violence (unless there is a return to it). Not sure what your comment about 'paying for it' means.



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Re: Northern Ireland election results
« Reply #33 on: March 27, 2017, 04:30:20 PM »
Some of the die hard Orange and greens will not let it lie, NS. The violence has not really ended - simply reverted to a less newsworthy level. So far, Sinn Fein and the leaders of what was the UDA have just about managed to keep it under control. It's still something of a powder keg,though.
"for, as long as but a hundred of us remain alive, never will we on any conditions be brought under English rule. It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself."

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Re: Northern Ireland election results
« Reply #34 on: March 27, 2017, 04:38:35 PM »
Some of the die hard Orange and greens will not let it lie, NS. The violence has not really ended - simply reverted to a less newsworthy level. So far, Sinn Fein and the leaders of what was the UDA have just about managed to keep it under control. It's still something of a powder keg,though.
but that doesn't mean that they are supporting it, nor that any progress in the political process will see one side who supported violence  'win' with a particular outcome.

Much of the ongoing violence is nothing to do with any political outcome but that there was a symbiotic relationship with criminal money making and tribal control. Thus control of drug supply and prostitution in areas makes money for the cause, and the cause provides 'respectability' for the crime.

The idea that Paisley and McGuinness could form a friendship was unimaginable a generation or so ago. We need to be able to reconcile other than think someone won by violence because then we currently have no outcomes that would not be true of.

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Re: Northern Ireland election results
« Reply #35 on: March 28, 2017, 08:23:56 PM »
In another generation, there will be hardly anyone who advocated violence (unless there is a return to it). Not sure what your comment about 'paying for it' means.

Somebody will have to pay for their dole money & council housing.