Westminster in lock down

[Nearly Sane]

Odd to hear victims described as foreigners by Michael Fallon

[Nearly Sane]

The apple does not fall far....


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39361079

[Robbie]

That is stupid and broders on slander.
Not surprising but I am in a way surprised, I thought Trump's children were better than him.

[floo]

That is stupid and broders on slander.
Not surprising but I am in a way surprised, I thought Trump's children were better than him.

Anything produced by Trump is bound to be tainted!

[Nearly Sane]

The Mash does well



http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/london-in-grip-of-normality-20170323124711

[floo]

Trying to carry on as normal is putting two fingers up to extremist scum.

[Nearly Sane]

Of course civilians get killed elsewhere



http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/us-air-strikes-mosul-230-civilians-killed-dead-isis-held-iraq-battle-islamic-state-a7646011.html?cmpid=facebook-post

[Bubbles]

Trying to carry on as normal is putting two fingers up to extremist scum.

Says Floo, starting to sound like an extremist.

[Nearly Sane]

Says Floo, starting to sound like an extremist.

Nope.

[Robbie]

Trying to carry on as normal is putting two fingers up to extremist scum.

Yup it is quite amazing how quickly people do get back to normal too. They still have to go to work & live their lives but dont ever feel quite the same if they've been close to a terrorist attack. The general feeling is that lightening wont' strike in same place twice. (Same applies to other disasters, i remember the Kings Cross fire & aftermath. Another girl &I couldn;t get in to work & when we found out why, realised how lucky we were but others travelling on different route were less so.)

[Nearly Sane]

Yup it is quite amazing how quickly people do get back to normal too. They still have to go to work & live their lives but dont ever feel quite the same if they've been close to a terrorist attack. The general feeling is that lightening wont' strike in same place twice. (Same applies to other disasters, i remember the Kings Cross fire & aftermath. Another girl &I couldn;t get in to work & when we found out why, realised how lucky we were but others travelling on different route were less so.)

Not sure about never feeling the same. I have been in proximity to three bombs when they went off, and while one was a bit pathetic, the other two were pretty scary. Never realm changed how I felt about the places.

[Harrowby Hall]

There are some worrying features about this attack which are apparently unaddressed by the "standard" model of terrorism. Trump-like (or even Brexit-like) restrictions on immigration would not have prevented this attack. Nor would security checks at airports.

We appear to have a perception that people who commit terrorist acts are young - this man was middle aged and born in Kent. We perceive terrorists to be heavily armed or are wearing explosives under their clothes - this man carried kitchen knives and drove a motor vehicle. The seemingly commonplace could be becoming the weapon of choice.

No doubt Trump would say "Stop Muslims from driving motor vehicles ..."

[jeremyp]

Not sure about never feeling the same. I have been in proximity to three bombs when they went off, and while one was a bit pathetic, the other two were pretty scary. Never realm changed how I felt about the places.

I was in London on the day of the 7/7 attacks. In fact, I got on a Circle line train at Paddington quite normally and was made to get off at Bank (I had been on my way to a merchant bank near Liverpool Street) which means my train must have passed the one with the Edgeware Road bomb in it and was behind the one with the Aldgate bomb.

We were locked in the bank's office all day and let out around 5pm. I then walked to Waterloo Station which was quite an odd experience because there was no vehicle traffic of  any kind in central London and thousands of pedestrians walking, mostly in silence. There was the usual rhetoric and hysteria in the papers about London being in fear and panic, but I saw none of that at all. I just saw people trying to get home.

The next day everything was back to normal and as with you, it didn't change the way I felt about London or the underground at all.

[SusanDoris]

More information is coming out about the killer - I wonder what his sources of income were.

[Udayana]

I'm confused by the calls for the government to have access to WhatsApp's encrypted messages (eg Amber Rudd on the Andrew Marr programme).

Surely the police have access to Masood's phone, and must have broken into it to be able to see that he was on WhatsApp? If not, are they are not able to break into the phone?.