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UK General Election 2017
« on: April 18, 2017, 10:38:47 AM »

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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2017, 10:45:53 AM »
Snap election?


NI direct rule?


Current rumour I am hearing is she isn't well.

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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2017, 10:51:25 AM »
Next speculation heard is a third child for prominent couple

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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2017, 11:05:49 AM »
Election or throwing the towel in.
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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2017, 11:10:03 AM »
Vlad to be announced as the new AoC?
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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2017, 11:10:42 AM »
Election!!!!!

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« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2017, 11:13:07 AM »
Election!!!!!
Well that will be JC out of a job pretty soon!
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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2017, 11:16:32 AM »
Election!!!!!
That's the tories out in 2022. You can only get Corbyn out once.
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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2017, 11:18:40 AM »
June 8th. Blimey.

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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2017, 11:20:51 AM »
I'm surprised she is legally allowed to do it.
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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2017, 11:21:43 AM »
With Corbyn at the helm of Labour, I doubt they have a cat's chance in hell of winning the election.

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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2017, 11:24:43 AM »
Of course this totally screws up the Brexit negotiations. We only had two years which was already too short and now there is going to be two month delay while we sort out who will have the authority to conduct the negotiations. She certainly knows how to shaft a country.
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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2017, 11:26:08 AM »
I wonder if she is looking for an out, a way of cancelling Article 50?

If NS is right and she is ill maybe she has no choice.

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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2017, 11:28:12 AM »
I'm surprised she is legally allowed to do it.


The Fixed Term Parliament act working really well  ;) It is, of course, a broken promise but doubt it will have an effect.

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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2017, 11:31:04 AM »
I'm surprised she is legally allowed to do it.

The Fixed Term Parliament Act allows for early elections if there's  a vote of confidence or two thirds of MPs vote for one. In effect Labour would  have to vote against a GE to block it. If that were to happen (& its almost unimaginable  that they would), May would just spend the next three years ramming it down Labour's throat that they ran away from facing her at the polls.
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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2017, 11:31:36 AM »
I wonder if she is looking for an out, a way of cancelling Article 50?

If NS is right and she is ill maybe she has no choice.

The illness was only speculation about what she might announce. She isn't given this. You don't go for a GE if you are I'll. And given she has announced she is fighting this on a pro Brexit stance, really doesn't look like any chance of cancelling Article 50. This is taking her chance and despite saying people shouldn't be playing games, this is exactly playing the game.

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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2017, 11:32:41 AM »
The Fixed Term Parliament Act allows for early elections if there's  a vote of confidence or two thirds of MPs vote for one. In effect Labour would  have to vote against a GE to block it. If that were to happen (& its almost unimaginable  that they would), May would just spend the next three years ramming it down Labour's throat that they ran away from facing her at the polls.

Or they block it and try for a vote of no confidence as a small snub.

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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2017, 11:40:03 AM »
'Bye, Jeremy - you'll go down as the man who murdered Labour.
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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2017, 11:42:25 AM »
Increases the chance of a soft(er) Brexit though.

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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #20 on: April 18, 2017, 11:49:05 AM »
What new magic does the Prime Minister believe she has?
2010 Country split.
2015 Narrow tory majority.
2016 Country split down the middle,
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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #21 on: April 18, 2017, 11:49:50 AM »
The illness was only speculation about what she might announce. She isn't given this. You don't go for a GE if you are I'll. And given she has announced she is fighting this on a pro Brexit stance, really doesn't look like any chance of cancelling Article 50. This is taking her chance and despite saying people shouldn't be playing games, this is exactly playing the game.

Basically, she has a really small majority which makes it difficult to do certain things like ride roughshod over the constitution. She's aiming to get a much larger majority.

I shall be voting Lib Dem in the futile hope they'll get in and reverse Brexit.
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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #22 on: April 18, 2017, 11:53:18 AM »
What new magic does the Prime Minister believe she has?

Jeremy Corbyn.

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2010 Country split.
2015 Narrow tory majority.
2016 Country split down the middle,

Also this:

http://www.ukpolitical.info/General_election_polls.htm

The Tories have a much bigger margin in the opinion polls than they did in 2015.
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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #23 on: April 18, 2017, 11:54:23 AM »
Basically, she has a really small majority which makes it difficult to do certain things like ride roughshod over the constitution. She's aiming to get a much larger majority.

I shall be voting Lib Dem in the futile hope they'll get in and reverse Brexit.

What's the likelihood of it having an effect in your constituency?

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Re: UK General Election 2017
« Reply #24 on: April 18, 2017, 11:55:23 AM »
There's another consideration. Things are probably going to be a bit rough for the government over the next two years, so if you have a general election now, you have time to turn it around in the ensuing three years.
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