Farron quits

[Rhiannon]

Well, there's the stupidest thing I'll read all day right there.

Vlad hasn't misused 'Stalinist' for a while now. I was beginning to miss it.

[Shaker]

Not really there are those on here who are quite open that theists should have no public forum.

Like?

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Vlad hasn't misused 'Stalinist' for a while now. I was beginning to miss it.

If Secular Humanism and it's hangers on have moved into thoughtcrime, totalitarianism, Duckspeak, word piracy in the context of a political movement and the question of who can Govern and who cannot then that is Orwellian. And that is an allegory of Stalin.

[ProfessorDavey]

If Secular Humanism and it's hangers on have moved into thoughtcrime, totalitarianism, Duckspeak, word piracy in the context of a political movement and the question of who can Govern and who cannot then that is Orwellian. And that is an allegory of Stalin.

Except they haven't.

[Walter]

Not really there are those on here who are quite open that theists should have no public forum.

of course they should, if only to face ridicule.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

of course they should, if only to face ridicule.

I can handle that since i'm always on hand to ridicule Sanderson, Copson, Toynbee and other SHers.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Well, there's the stupidest thing I'll read all day right there.

We can never smell ourselves.....but some enjoy the fragrance of their own farts.

[Owlswing]

Honest but would have thought he'd have worked that out before becoming leader.

Yeah, but maybe he hoped he could keep his views on gays secret!

[Owlswing]

Perhaps even as early as the point just before joining a party called Liberal Democrats.

Yeah, but was it the 'Liberal' or the 'Democrat' that sank him?

[Owlswing]

An honest person can't lead a party which supports marriage equality if he or she opposes it. I don't see why that is controversial. There's no suggestion that Farron should leave the LibDems.

Agreed!

[Owlswing]

Well, there's the stupidest thing I'll read all day right there.

Trip Vlad up on anything and her rolls out the Stalinists! How very predictable!

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Trip Vlad up on anything and her rolls out the Stalinists! How very predictable!

Owlswing....I wondered if that was the sound of axes being ground.

[Owlswing]

Owlswing....I wondered if that was the sound of axes being ground.

Please detail which axes

[Sebastian Toe]

Please detail which axes

Germany, Italy or Japan perhaps?

[Ricky Spanish]

Ohhhh good..

A get out clause from the DUP debacle..

If the new leader is stupid enough to coalition with the #Maybot then this country is fucked for the next generation or 2.. 

Thank fuck I will be dead and not have to witness "Great" britain torn into a 3 world country.

[floo]

I wonder who will replace Farron? It was a great pity David Milliband quit being an MP, he would have made a much better leader than his brother, imo, and the Lib Dems might have some clout.

[Robbie]

That we'll never know.
Ed's much nicer, more interesting and fun now than when he was party leader. When the pressure was off he relaxed.

Wonder who the next lib-dem leader will be?

[Shaker]

So long as they remain the invisible men of British politics, it doesn't matter.

[Harrowby Hall]

I wonder who will replace Farron? It was a great pity David Milliband quit being an MP, he would have made a much better leader than his brother, imo, and the Lib Dems might have some clout.

Floo, you've not been at the 7-Up again, have you?  This post suggests that you might be thinking that the Millibands were Lib-Dems ...

[jeremyp]

That does not sound like a particularly democratic nor a particularly liberal attitude to membership. It sounds like the first steps toward totalitarianism. A mainstream political party must reflect the society in which it grows if it wants to flourish. I accept that Tim Farron's views on sexuality may not be in tune with the majority of his party but the fact that he appears to hold them should not disbar him from being a member of that party. He appears to be a typical LibDem in all other respects.

This seems a bit arse about tit. Political parties - at least the ones we elect - are supposed to lead not follow. Political parties are supposed to have principles and are supposed to advocate them. That's why there are different political parties.

The Liberal Democrats have long had a principle that gay people deserve the same rights in marriage as straight people. Tim Farron disagrees with that principle and so it got him in trouble. The same thing happened to Jeremy Corbyn to a lesser extent over Trident.

[Harrowby Hall]

This subject was discussed on the Sunday programme on Radio 4 this morning.

It's on iPlayer -  why don't you listen to it?

[Owlswing]

This subject was discussed on the Sunday programme on Radio 4 this morning.

It's on iPlayer -  why don't you listen to it?

Because I don't have a TV licence?

[Nearly Sane]

Because I don't have a TV licence?

Don't need one for radio programmes on i-Player

[Walt Zingmatilder]

The question being posed on the BBC this morning is ''can you mix religion with politics?''.
How is that different from ''can you mix the religious with politics?''.

Can you mix secular humanism with politics?

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Vlad proposed Secular Humanists had ,with regards to Tim Farron, moved into thoughtcrime.

Professor Davey replied.

Except they haven't.

Surely they have if Farron's policy is not that which he holds personally since the focus is what he holds personally (Thoughtcrime) rather than his policy.