Is there anything to like about Corbyn???

[Grace of God]

just looking for opinions...??

[floo]

Compared to that idiot in the White House Corbyn is very likeable, but then so is a rabid dog.

[Steve H]

Yes, tons: he's an honest politician who believes in, and has worked for for decades, social justice, he opposes apartheid Israel, and he's an allotment holder. It's just a pity he's not pro-Europe.

[jeremyp]

I admire his commitment to his principles even if they are not election winning, even though I do not agree with all of them.

[Rhiannon]

I used to think he was highly principled but then he didn't stick to them over Brexit.

[jeremyp]

I used to think he was highly principled but then he didn't stick to them over Brexit.

In what sense did he not stick to them?

[Stranger]

Yes, tons: he's an honest politician who believes in, and has worked for for decades, social justice, he opposes apartheid Israel, and he's an allotment holder. It's just a pity he's not pro-Europe.

Well said.

[Robbie]

Yes, tons: he's an honest politician who believes in, and has worked for for decades, social justice, he opposes apartheid Israel, and he's an allotment holder. It's just a pity he's not pro-Europe.

Quite agree.
He is somewhat naive though - he's learning it's tough at the top in the hard way.

[Anchorman]

Yes, tons: he's an honest politician who believes in, and has worked for for decades, social justice, he opposes apartheid Israel, and he's an allotment holder. It's just a pity he's not pro-Europe.

Yep. Doesn't make the party he leads electable, though.
It's hopelessly mired in division over too many things to be an effective opposition, never mind a government, unfortunately.

[Rhiannon]

In what sense did he not stick to them?

He half heartedly supported Remain but is a brexiter at heart. Had Labour had a genuinely strong pro remainer in charge, maybe the result of the referendum would have been different.

[Rhiannon]

just looking for opinions...??

Of all the party leaders he’s the one I’d like to share a meal with.

[Anchorman]

Of all the party leaders he’s the one I’d like to share a meal with.

   



I've never met the leader of the Scottish Greens - Patrick Harvie - but from what he's said, I'd like to share a meal - and a dram - with him.

[jeremyp]

He half heartedly supported Remain but is a brexiter at heart. Had Labour had a genuinely strong pro remainer in charge, maybe the result of the referendum would have been different.

I certainly agree that a stronger Labour campaign would have helped but I knew Corbyn was a Eurosceptic and so I don't really begrudge him for not getting behind the Remain campaign. It is, however, one of the reasons I will not vote Labour with him in charge.

[Rhiannon]

I certainly agree that a stronger Labour campaign would have helped but I knew Corbyn was a Eurosceptic and so I don't really begrudge him for not getting behind the Remain campaign. It is, however, one of the reasons I will not vote Labour with him in charge.

It wouldn’t matter were it not official Labour Party policy at the time and he party leader. From the back benches he could say what he liked. From the front he just looked lukewarm. That isn’t strong leadership.

[jeremyp]

It wouldn’t matter were it not official Labour Party policy at the time and he party leader. From the back benches he could say what he liked. From the front he just looked lukewarm. That isn’t strong leadership.

Yes and he supported the Remain campaign as the Labour leader. he just (perhaps understandably) didn't do a good job of it. It happened again in the election with the policy on the Trident replacement. He toed the party line in spite of being personally against it.

I would have resigned if the party wouldn't support my position on fundamental issues of policy, but I never said he is a good leader. That's the other reason I won't vote Labour with him in charge - he's absolutely useless.

[Rhiannon]

Yes and he supported the Remain campaign as the Labour leader. he just (perhaps understandably) didn't do a good job of it. It happened again in the election with the policy on the Trident replacement. He toed the party line in spite of being personally against it.

I would have resigned if the party wouldn't support my position on fundamental issues of policy, but I never said he is a good leader. That's the other reason I won't vote Labour with him in charge - he's absolutely useless.

Sentiments I agree with, but you said he’d stuck to his principles. He didn’t, unless his principle has now changed to ‘Jeremy can tell big fibs if it means that he gets to stay as party leader’, in which case I’d agree with you.

[jeremyp]

but you said he’d stuck to his principles. He didn’t, unless his principle has now changed to ‘Jeremy can tell big fibs if it means that he gets to stay as party leader’, in which case I’d agree with you.

What I meant was that his principles aren't secret. We all know he disagrees with official party policy on some matters. Contrast with Boris Johnson who I think was secretly a Remainer but who joined the Brexit side in order to curry favour with the Eurosceptics in his party for a future bid for the leadership.

[Rhiannon]

What I meant was that his principles aren't secret. We all know he disagrees with official party policy on some matters. Contrast with Boris Johnson who I think was secretly a Remainer but who joined the Brexit side in order to curry favour with the Eurosceptics in his party for a future bid for the leadership.

I think Johnson is a Borisist, nothing else.

[Nearly Sane]

What I meant was that his principles aren't secret. We all know he disagrees with official party policy on some matters. Contrast with Boris Johnson who I think was secretly a Remainer but who joined the Brexit side in order to curry favour with the Eurosceptics in his party for a future bid for the leadership.

I have no issues with Corbyn being ambivalent on the referendum. It seems to me he genuinely was so the fabled 7 out of 10 mark he gave it was correct. Since then he doesn't really seem to be providing a clear view but that seems to be an issue the Labour Party has.

I get his idea that the party favour Trident so he has to agree with it in terms of his role, it just seems to me a step too far for a leader. I would rather not lead a party where we argue for Trident renewal if it is a principle that it is wrong.

[Aruntraveller]

This says a lot of the things I think. The hypocrisy and lies from the mainstream are now so blatant that some people don't even see it.

https://anotherangryvoice.blogspot.co.uk/2018/04/why-im-giving-up-on-jeremy-corbyn.html

And yes he's a left wing blogger, but as said earlier in another context just because he's left wing, it doesn't mean he's wrong.

[jakswan]

Yes, tons: he's an honest politician he's not pro-Europe.

Just his last manifesto, on economics, was a pack of lies.

[Steve H]

Just his last manifesto, on economics, was a pack of lies.

Examples?

[ad_orientem]

There are many things I disagree with Corbyn on just as there are probably a few things I would wholeheartedly agree with him on, but dishonest I don't think he is.

[jakswan]

Examples?

Corp Tax will not raise anything like they claimed.

[jeremyp]

Corp Tax will not raise anything like they claimed.

I wouldn't describe it as a pack of lies, merely hopelessly naive.