more deaths in Germany...

[Grace of God]

is the religion of peace running riot in the entire world..??

[Aruntraveller]

As yet no confirmation that any religion is involved.

Current news is that it is a German national with mental health issues.

Nothing like jumping the gun with your prejudices to the fore.

[Anchorman]

is the religion of peace running riot in the entire world..??

No.

[Grace of God]

As yet no confirmation that any religion is involved.

Current news is that it is a German national with mental health issues.

Nothing like jumping the gun with your prejudices to the fore.

always mental health issues, weird how that works..

[Robbie]

A terrible tragedy. Don't see what religion has to do with it.

[Gordon]

always mental health issues, weird how that works..

Not if the perpetrator had known mental health issues: perhaps it would better for you to have awaited more information instead of jumping to conclusions.

[Steve H]

always mental health issues, weird how that works..

What is that supposed to mean? A small minority of people with mental health problems (not "issues" - tiresome modern euphemism) are dangerous, though of course the vast majority aren't.

[floo]

is the religion of peace running riot in the entire world..??

And which religion would that be?

[Steve H]

And which religion would that be?

He means, very obviously I'd've thought, Islam. However, he's jumping the gun, as the outrage hasn't yet been linked to Islamist terrorism (and even if it eventually is, Islam ans Islamism are two different things).

[floo]

He means, very obviously I'd've thought, Islam. However, he's jumping the gun, as the outrage hasn't yet been linked to Islamist terrorism (and even if it eventually is, Islam ans Islamism are two different things).

I didn't realise Islam was supposedly the religion of 'peace'! 

[Grace of God]

Not if the perpetrator had known mental health issues: perhaps it would better for you to have awaited more information instead of jumping to conclusions.

it always seems so very convenient doesn't it... mind you i'm sure the media will tel us the whole truth....lol

[Grace of God]

What is that supposed to mean? A small minority of people with mental health problems (not "issues" - tiresome modern euphemism) are dangerous, though of course the vast majority aren't.

are those who blow themselves up, throwing acid, stabbing people, driving in to people all conveniently mentally ill, probably but what do the majority of them seem to have in common, other than mental illness of course...

[Gordon]

are those who blow themselves up, throwing acid, stabbing people, driving in to people all conveniently mentally ill, probably but what do the majority of them seem to have in common, other than mental illness of course...

Perhaps you might do better to leave the diagnosis and care of people with mental health problems to those with the knowledge and experience to deal with them, and avoid making uniformed generalisations.

[Grace of God]

And which religion would that be?

haven't you noticed a certain religion seems to be in the papers for atrocities, perhaps it is coincidence...

[Grace of God]

He means, very obviously I'd've thought, Islam. However, he's jumping the gun, as the outrage hasn't yet been linked to Islamist terrorism (and even if it eventually is, Islam ans Islamism are two different things).

are they, who follows the koran??

[Grace of God]

Perhaps you might do better to leave the diagnosis and care of people with mental health problems to those with the knowledge and experience to deal with them, and avoid making uniformed generalisations.

so what part of what I said appears uninformed?? would you class throwing acid in peoples face the actions of a well adjusted person??

[wigginhall]

The right wing seem to agree with IS, that militant Islamism is the true Islam!

[Aruntraveller]

so what part of what I said appears uninformed??

The bit where you said it was the religion of peace.

And you've gone downhill since then. Quite an achievement given the nature of your OP.

[floo]

haven't you noticed a certain religion seems to be in the papers for atrocities, perhaps it is coincidence...

Christianity has been responsible for atrocities over the centuries too.

[Rhiannon]

Proper Islamic name, Jens.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-43687875

[Nearly Sane]

Christianity has been responsible for atrocities over the centuries too.

Leaving aside the tu quoque fallacy you just used, neither Christianity nor Islam are responsible for anything over the centuries if you aren't a believer in a god(s).

[floo]

Leaving aside the tu quoque fallacy you just used, neither Christianity nor Islam are responsible for anything over the centuries if you aren't a believer in a god(s).

Yeh right!

[Nearly Sane]

Yeh right!

Well yes,  it is right. If you don't believe in a god then both religions are just human creations, so giving them responsibility separately would be incorrect 

[Stranger]

Well yes,  it is right. If you don't believe in a god then both religions are just human creations, so giving them responsibility separately would be incorrect

So Nazism wasn't responsible for any atrocities either? I guess pedantically you could take the view that only individual humans are ever responsible for anything but to discount the influence of belief systems and the organisations that subscribe to them seems to be an extreme position.

Technically a belief cannot kill anybody but people can kill because of a belief they hold.

[Nearly Sane]

So Nazism wasn't responsible for any atrocities either? I guess pedantically you could take the view that only individual humans are ever responsible for anything but to discount the influence of belief systems and the organisations that subscribe to them seems to be an extreme position.

Technically a belief cannot kill anybody but people can kill because of a belief they hold.

Or you could take a rational view, and not try and use the term 'pedantically' as an attempted well poisoning. The point about religious beliefs is that they specifically claim an outside influence, if you argue that they actually have responsibility then you are buying into that approach.