more deaths in Germany...

[The Accountant, OBE, KC]

and what does that have to do with the obvious problem muslim have with raping white girls... of course allah, and mo think it's ok, perhaps that is why muslims have a problem with it...

Best way really - to focus exclusively on Muslims if you want to distract attention from the widespread abuse of children by white paedophiles - or is this more you burying your head in the sand and pretending children aren't being sexually abused by white paedophiles?

[Grace of God]

Best way really - to focus exclusively on Muslims if you want to distract attention from the widespread abuse of children by white paedophiles - or is this more you burying your head in the sand and pretending children aren't being sexually abused by white paedophiles?

no one wants to distract from child abuse, I could ask why you want to focus on a few whites when muslims all around the world are allowed to rape children and allah doesn't seem to mind, are you racist or something...

[The Accountant, OBE, KC]

no one wants to distract from child abuse, I could ask why you want to focus on a few whites when muslims all around the world are allowed to rape children and allah doesn't seem to mind, are you racist or something...

So you must be happy that the media reported that from the data available for the report on child sex abuse, it appears that 100% of the paedophikes who have a prior interest in having sex with children are white. Since no one wants to distract from child abuse it must be a relief to you to know that the police are aware there is a particular problem with these types of white paedophiles. What do you think the white community should do about it so they don’t get accused of burying their heads in the sand or there aren’t accusations that the British government are allowing white paedophiles to rape children.

The report I linked to focuses on gangs of men of Pakistani heritage who are grooming girls, not just  the white paedophiles, so no not racist. Happy to discuss both aspects of the report. Why are you just focusing on Muslims if you really do care about child sex abuse victims as you claim. Don’t you care about the victims of the many white paedophiles as well - the ones who travel abroad and prey on poor children in foreign countries for example.

[Grace of God]

So you must be happy that the media reported that from the data available for the report on child sex abuse, it appears that 100% of the paedophikes who have a prior interest in having sex with children are white. Since no one wants to distract from child abuse it must be a relief to you to know that the police are aware there is a particular problem with these types of white paedophiles. What do you think the white community should do about it so they don’t get accused of burying their heads in the sand or there aren’t accusations that the British government are allowing white paedophiles to rape children.

The report I linked to focuses on gangs of men of Pakistani heritage who are grooming girls, not just  the white paedophiles, so no not racist. Happy to discuss both aspects of the report. Why are you just focusing on Muslims if you really do care about child sex abuse victims as you claim. Don’t you care about the victims of the many white paedophiles as well - the ones who travel abroad and prey on poor children in foreign countries for example.

yet we still have the problem with rape where ever muslims go, it could be coincidence or it could be that the muslim men like to follow the teachings and habits of the koran, where taking child brides was common place and so was raping them... and allah didn't seem to mind... so why should muslims...

Of the 306 offenders whose ethnicity was noted, 75 per cent were categorised as Asian, 17 per cent white, and the remaining 8 per cent black (5 per cent) or Arab (3 per cent).

75 % and when you consider the mumbers we have of asians that 75% is huge.... 97% of victims were white.... wwas it considered a series of racist attacks... no ..

[Robbie]

Following on from Gabriella's post:-
Plus the trafficking of kids from other countries for sexual exploitation & domestic slavery here, in the USA and many other parts of the world. Also the importation of young women from eastern european countries who are promised jobs and find themselves working as escorts or in a brothel - or as slaves. Sometimes ending up murdered. There are many heartbreaking stories stemming from quite sophisticated organisations specialising in vice.  As the law gets on to one, another springs up.

[The Accountant, OBE, KC]

yet we still have the problem with rape where ever muslims go, it could be coincidence or it could be that the muslim men like to follow the teachings and habits of the koran, where taking child brides was common place and so was raping them... and allah didn't seem to mind... so why should muslims...

Of the 306 offenders whose ethnicity was noted, 75 per cent were categorised as Asian, 17 per cent white, and the remaining 8 per cent black (5 per cent) or Arab (3 per cent).

75 % and when you consider the mumbers we have of asians that 75% is huge.... 97% of victims were white.... wwas it considered a series of racist attacks... no ..

I see you are burying your head in the sand about the 100% of white paedophiles who were classified as having a prior interest in having sex with children. Why do you not care about the victims of these paedophiles and do you tell the victims it was their fault for reporting white paedophiles to the authorities?

You seem to like coming up with theories - what is your explanation for the 100% white ethnicity of these types of paedophiles, given that Britain is not 100% white? What is your theory about white skin and paedophilia? It could be coincidence or maybe you think paedophilia follows wherever white people go? And not just in the UK but in places like Thailand, Sri Lanka - lots of white paedophiles travel to those types of places to exploit and sexually abuse poor children.Why do you prefer to distract people from this truth, if you care about the child victims of paedophiles as you claim?

[Grace of God]

I see you are burying your head in the sand about the 100% of white paedophiles who were classified as having a prior interest in having sex with children. Why do you not care about the victims of these paedophiles and do you tell the victims it was their fault for reporting white paedophiles to the authorities?

You seem to like coming up with theories - what is your explanation for the 100% white ethnicity of these types of paedophiles, given that Britain is not 100% white? What is your theory about white skin and paedophilia? It could be coincidence or maybe you think paedophilia follows wherever white people go? And not just in the UK but in places like Thailand, Sri Lanka - lots of white paedophiles travel to those types of places to exploit and sexually abuse poor children.Why do you prefer to distract people from this truth, if you care about the child victims of paedophiles as you claim?

i have already said whites do it but it does not make it acceptable...

The 27 court cases that we found led to the convictions of 92 men. Some 79 (87 per cent) were reported as being of South Asian Muslim origin.

muslims carry it on all around the world where ever they are, the difference is everyone who is normal is against the idea of raping children but for some reason allah and the koran have no problem with it at all, that is a very worrying fact, allah condones the abuse of children, it's hardly surprising of their god condones it that they don't see nay problem with it... and of course mohammed's ecxample is just as bad, this is why child rape is an epidemic among muslims...

[The Accountant, OBE, KC]

i have already said whites do it but it does not make it acceptable...

The 27 court cases that we found led to the convictions of 92 men. Some 79 (87 per cent) were reported as being of South Asian Muslim origin.

muslims carry it on all around the world where ever they are, the difference is everyone who is normal is against the idea of raping children but for some reason allah and the koran have no problem with it at all, that is a very worrying fact, allah condones the abuse of children, it's hardly surprising of their god condones it that they don't see nay problem with it... and of course mohammed's ecxample is just as bad, this is why child rape is an epidemic among muslims...

Yes but do you have answers for the 100% white statistic in the report for paedophiles who have a prior interest in sex with children? Why are whites carrying out rape of children all around the world, wherever they are - they even go on holiday just to do that to foreign children. As you like to point out - were these considered a series of racist attacks? Child rape is an epidemic among whites based on your reasoning.

According to the Judge in one of the Newcastle grooming cases  "while sentencing members of the gang at Newcastle Crown Court, Judge Penny Moreland said they picked out their victims “not because of their race, but because they were young, impressionable, naive and vulnerable”.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/newcastle-grooming-gang-asian-white-girls-not-targeted-race-judge-court-sentencing-rape-sexual-a7931276.html

Apparently the police have changed their approach to grooming gangs, as their approach was giving the perpetrators the impression that they were unlikely to be prosecuted.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/grooming-gangs-uk-britain-newcastle-serious-case-review-operation-sanctuary-shelter-muslim-asian-a8225106.html

Your belief in Allah and your beliefs and opinions about what Allah condones are fascinating to read -  but of course other beliefs and opinions are available about Aisha's age. For example "Taking all known accounts and records of Aisha's age at marriage, estimates of her age range from nine to 19.

Because of this, it is impossible to know with any certainty how old Aisha was. What we do know is what the Qur'an says about marriage: that it is valid only between consenting adults, and that a woman has the right to choose her own spouse." 
 
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2012/sep/17/muhammad-aisha-truth

Did you have something specific from the Quran to share on this issue?

Makes a change from all the assertions on here about the Bible, Jesus, and Christianity I suppose. I get quite busy at work sometimes so I might not be able to respond for a while, but all this attention on Muslims is starting to make me feel all warm and wanted 

[Steve H]

"Taking all known accounts and records of Aisha's age at marriage, estimates of her age range from nine to 19.

Because of this, it is impossible to know with any certainty how old Aisha was. What we do know is what the Qur'an says about marriage: that it is valid only between consenting adults, and that a woman has the right to choose her own spouse." 

Aisha's age is therefore most likely to have been somewhere in the middle of that range, 13-15 - which is considered much too young in modern Western society, but wasn't in other times and places, and girls of that age would probaby at least have reached puberty. Juiet Capulet, and Mary, Jesus's mother, were probably only in their mid-teens.

[Robbie]

Agree Steven.  In our part of the world girls and boys were considered to be adult at a much younger age than now & were often married - even before puberty.. IIt seems scandalous by today's standards. I must say I'm glad about that but had I lived in mediaeval times I may have felt differently.

[Grace of God]

Yes but do you have answers for the 100% white statistic in the report for paedophiles who have a prior interest in sex with children? Why are whites carrying out rape of children all around the world, wherever they are - they even go on holiday just to do that to foreign children. As you like to point out - were these considered a series of racist attacks? Child rape is an epidemic among whites based on your reasoning.

According to the Judge in one of the Newcastle grooming cases  "while sentencing members of the gang at Newcastle Crown Court, Judge Penny Moreland said they picked out their victims “not because of their race, but because they were young, impressionable, naive and vulnerable”.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/newcastle-grooming-gang-asian-white-girls-not-targeted-race-judge-court-sentencing-rape-sexual-a7931276.html

Apparently the police have changed their approach to grooming gangs, as their approach was giving the perpetrators the impression that they were unlikely to be prosecuted.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/grooming-gangs-uk-britain-newcastle-serious-case-review-operation-sanctuary-shelter-muslim-asian-a8225106.html

Your belief in Allah and your beliefs and opinions about what Allah condones are fascinating to read -  but of course other beliefs and opinions are available about Aisha's age. For example "Taking all known accounts and records of Aisha's age at marriage, estimates of her age range from nine to 19.

Because of this, it is impossible to know with any certainty how old Aisha was. What we do know is what the Qur'an says about marriage: that it is valid only between consenting adults, and that a woman has the right to choose her own spouse." 
 
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2012/sep/17/muhammad-aisha-truth

Did you have something specific from the Quran to share on this issue?

Makes a change from all the assertions on here about the Bible, Jesus, and Christianity I suppose. I get quite busy at work sometimes so I might not be able to respond for a while, but all this attention on Muslims is starting to make me feel all warm and wanted 

what tosh, everyone knows mohammed's child bride was 5 years old he had sex with her when she was 9 years old..

[The Accountant, OBE, KC]

what tosh, everyone knows mohammed's child bride was 5 years old he had sex with her when she was 9 years old..

Or everyone knows it is impossible to know with any certainty how old Aisha was. What we do know is what the Qur'an says about marriage: that it is valid only between consenting adults, and that a woman has the right to choose her own spouse." 

You do know you don't need to fake concern for child victims of paedophiles if all you really want to do is share your beliefs about all things Islam. The Muslim board is full of threads started by people who want to share their beliefs about Islam, Prophet Mohamed, the Quran, Muslims etc. You should go play there - I'm sure Trippy would welcome a little friend. 

[Robbie]

He's already met the Tripster, Gabriella. One could say a marriage made in Heaven, however I have a feeling Grace is taking the proverbial& is not all he seemsto be.

[ippy]

He's already met the Tripster, Gabriella. One could say a marriage made in Heaven, however I have a feeling Grace is taking the proverbial& is not all he seemsto be.

Just look up Douglas Murry on YouTube where he speaks about any aspect of Islam, there's plenty of it, for me he has it summed up in a nutshell.

ippy

[Robbie]

I'll pass on that one Ippy but I am familiar with Douglas Murray & have read some of what he has published.