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Nearly Sane

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New head of the Commonwealth to be...
« on: April 18, 2018, 10:36:28 PM »
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Re: New head of the Commonwealth to be...
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2018, 10:43:21 PM »
Really? I read something earlier today about Prince Harry being a Commonwealth Youth Ambassador & fact he will be glad to work with Meghan but didn't know she had an official title (surely not Head of the Commonwealth though).

NS:Not a bad idea in many ways.

She is certainly committed to humanitarian causes.

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« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2018, 05:54:37 PM »
No the Queen wants Charles to be Head of the Commonwealth after her. I thought it was unlikely to be anyone else (& then thought you wuz prob'ly being facetious  ;) & Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie was jumping the gun).
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« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2018, 07:26:33 PM »
Yep.....the numpty in chief will be the next head of the commonwealth 'cos mumsie wants it. So much for democracy, then.
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« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2018, 07:28:13 PM »
The Commonwealth: yet another example of anachronistic flummery - I say bin it.
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« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2018, 07:32:08 PM »
Quote from: Gordon on April 19, 2018, 07:28:13 PM
The Commonwealth: yet another example of anachronistic flummery - I say bin it.


I kinda said the same on another thread.
Overspill of the sewers of empire.
It was something for Geordie to be happy about when India told him where he could shove his title.
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« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2018, 07:35:32 PM »
You could probably opt out if you wanted to Anchor ...
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« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2018, 09:29:47 PM »
Quote from: Robbie on April 19, 2018, 07:35:32 PM
You could probably opt out if you wanted to Anchor ...


When we achieve the retuen of our sovriegnty, we'll have a referendum and, if I have my way, ditch the flummery.
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« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2018, 10:25:19 PM »
We will all congratulate from down here with no hard feelings at all.
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Re: New head of the Commonwealth to be...
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2018, 10:44:38 PM »
Quote from: Anchorman on April 19, 2018, 09:29:47 PM

When we achieve the retuen of our sovriegnty, we'll have a referendum and, if I have my way, ditch the flummery.

It's a shame Anchor, there's stil too many that have that silly grin on their faces whenever the royals are mentioned, oh other than that Anchor, I 'm with you on this one.

It's a pity Enid's no longer with us, 'Big ears and the Comonwealth', would make a good title for her series, it'd be a bit like 'The Fameous Five' in flavour, "what's Charlie boy up to now chums, he's a very naughty boy you know".

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« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2018, 06:59:20 AM »
Quote from: ippy on April 19, 2018, 10:44:38 PM
It's a shame Anchor, there's stil too many that have that silly grin on their faces whenever the royals are mentioned, oh other than that Anchor, I 'm with you on this one.
I for one do not have a 'silly grin' on my face! The system works; there isn't a better one to take its place; so I'll challenge any killjoy who seeks to bring it down for impractical, colour-free, miserably wrong reasons.


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« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2018, 07:29:36 AM »
Quote from: SusanDoris on April 20, 2018, 06:59:20 AM
I for one do not have a 'silly grin' on my face! The system works; there isn't a better one to take its place; so I'll challenge any killjoy who seeks to bring it down for impractical, colour-free, miserably wrong reasons.


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In what way does the Commonwealth 'work'?

If we binned it by 5 pm this evening I'm struggling to work out how we'd even notice any difference.
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« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2018, 07:44:19 AM »
Quote from: SusanDoris on April 20, 2018, 06:59:20 AM
I for one do not have a 'silly grin' on my face! The system works; there isn't a better one to take its place; so I'll challenge any killjoy who seeks to bring it down for impractical, colour-free, miserably wrong reasons.]

Neither do I have a silly grin on my face (far too early for that, just waking up. Besides which I'm saving a couple of smiles for the new Cambridge baby & Harry's wedding next month  ;) ).

Seriously, the Commonwealth is quite a complex organisation with different types of membership - Commonwealth 'realms' & others. I expect you know more about it than me, I was reading about it before going to sleep last night.  I certainly like the idea of shared values & friendship with other countries - not entirely sure all values are really shared but the ideal is surely a good one. The Commonwealth Games are marvellously uniting. A lot of people seem to value the Commonwealth, I can see it being around for a long time.

However I understand why the people of Scotland disregard the organisation. When Scotland is finally free of us they can completely disregard it..
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Re: New head of the Commonwealth to be...
« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2018, 07:53:32 AM »
Mmm despite the tone overall of people in Scotland on here, I think it would be incorrect to say the people of Scotland as a bloc disregard the Commonwealth, or that we would be 'free' of  'you' if we leave. When the Games were held in Glasgow it was a joyous occasion. Were the people of Scotland vote for independence, then I suspect that it would be sometime before the monarchy was removed if it was, though I think there is a much higher chance with Charles than others. I doubt there would be much of a campaign to leave the Commonwealth at all.
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« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2018, 08:46:41 AM »
I think Charles would be an excellent head of the Commonwealth. :)
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« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2018, 09:02:35 AM »
Quote from: Littleroses on April 20, 2018, 08:46:41 AM
I think Charles would be an excellent head of the Commonwealth. :)


I think I would be an excellent head of the Commonwealth.  :D
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« Reply #16 on: April 20, 2018, 09:04:24 AM »
Quote from: Littleroses on April 20, 2018, 08:46:41 AM
I think Charles would be an excellent head of the Commonwealth. :)
Evidence? Arguments? You always demand them from others, but never provide your own.
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« Reply #17 on: April 20, 2018, 09:14:27 AM »
Quote from: Trentvoyager on April 20, 2018, 09:02:35 AM

I think I would be an excellent head of the Commonwealth.  :D
I agree with you - I vote for you.
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« Reply #18 on: April 20, 2018, 09:30:05 AM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on April 20, 2018, 09:14:27 AM
I agree with you - I vote for you.

You don’t get a vote.
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Re: New head of the Commonwealth to be...
« Reply #19 on: April 20, 2018, 09:33:34 AM »
So there's a set of games every four yerars. And? It seems to me those are the only values the Commonwealth shares. Not all are democracies. Not all are monarchies (some have a different monarch) Not all share the same language Not all share the same basis of a legal or educational system. Not all have the same attitude to human rights. Not all have the same attitude ti the environment. Sorry, not seeing very many common values here. Admittedly, most were former exploited, colonies, brutalised by empire....does that count?
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« Reply #20 on: April 20, 2018, 10:47:49 AM »
Quote from: Steve H on April 20, 2018, 09:04:24 AM
Evidence? Arguments? You always demand them from others, but never provide your own.

Everything he has done as Prince of Wales has been laudable imo, with the exception of marrying that ghastly creature Diana! 
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« Reply #21 on: April 20, 2018, 10:48:57 AM »
Quote from: Littleroses on April 20, 2018, 10:47:49 AM
Everything he has done as Prince of Wales has been laudable imo, with the exception of marrying that ghastly creature Diana!
What has he 'done' that you think is laudable?
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« Reply #22 on: April 20, 2018, 11:07:30 AM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on April 20, 2018, 10:48:57 AM
What has he 'done' that you think is laudable?
It doesn't matter! He - LIKE EVERY OTHER HUMAN BEING - has made mistakes. Unfortunately for his situation, it is virtually all in the public eye. He is, I imagine well aware of the impartiality he will need to have in the position as Head of the Commonwealth. Anyone who doesn't think he has the right background and experience etc to take over the role when the Queen dies, then let him/her name a better choice.

And be realistic about it - not waving a republican/let's have anyone but Royalty, Conservatives/ etc banner about!!
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Re: New head of the Commonwealth to be...
« Reply #23 on: April 20, 2018, 11:09:27 AM »
Quote from: Littleroses on April 20, 2018, 10:47:49 AM
Everything he has done as Prince of Wales has been laudable imo, with the exception of marrying that ghastly creature Diana! 


What has Chuck done in Wales to be Prince o it?
For that matter, what's he done in Carrick to be earl of it?
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« Reply #24 on: April 20, 2018, 11:15:21 AM »
Quote from: SusanDoris on April 20, 2018, 11:07:30 AM
It doesn't matter! He - LIKE EVERY OTHER HUMAN BEING - has made mistakes. Unfortunately for his situation, it is virtually all in the public eye. He is, I imagine well aware of the impartiality he will need to have in the position as Head of the Commonwealth. Anyone who doesn't think he has the right background and experience etc to take over the role when the Queen dies, then let him/her name a better choice.

And be realistic about it - not waving a republican/let's have anyone but Royalty, Conservatives/ etc banner about!!
What an odd post! When asked what he's done, instead of saying anything he has done you seek to poison the well be questioning the motives of those who ask the question. I hadn't mentioned anything about mistakes so not sure what relevance that has. The problem to me is that if the Commonwealth is a democratic institution then passing the head of it on by right is antidemocratic. Surely you would wan there to be a case made for Charles, rationally, rather than just it being passed on as if we were still in the days of colonies?
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