'The Assassination of Katie Hopkins'

[Nearly Sane]

Sounds interesting



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-43746654

[Steve H]

Oh damn - it's only a musical, not a news item. Surely it should be "murder", though: it's usually only called an assassination when the victim is someone important.

[Nearly Sane]

Oh damn - it's only a musical, not a news item. Surely it should be "murder", though: it's usually only called an assassination when the victim is someone important.

Isn't 'sleb' the new important? (I am guessing that that might be part of the point of the musical)

[Anchorman]

OK, tounge-in-cheek, but it might be the first murder in history where the police have to try and find who didn't do it.

[Rhiannon]

This thread is making the producer’s point for him.

[Steve H]

OK, tounge-in-cheek, but it might be the first murder in history where the police have to try and find who didn't do it.

[Nearly Sane]

While I disagree vehemently with Hopkins, this sort of glorying n the idea of her death with what seems a hint of misogyny in the last post makes me a tad uncomfortable.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Where's the mysogyny?

[Rhiannon]

While I disagree vehemently with Hopkins, this sort of glorying n the idea of her death with what seems a hint of misogyny in the last post makes me a tad uncomfortable.

But it’s acceptable because she’s right wing. Haven’t you noticed?

[Steve H]

Where's the mysogyny?

Katie Hopkins is a woman (allegedly), so you can't criticise her without being accused of misogyny.

[Rhiannon]

Katie Hopkins is a woman (allegedly), so you can't criticise her without being accused of misogyny.

Some find it misogynistic to call a woman a cunt.

Not that I buy into that, I won’t have a name for my genitalia being the worst thing you can call someone. But it’s a point of view.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

But it’s acceptable because she’s right wing. Haven’t you noticed?

The only person I know in this country who has been assassinated for real recently has been Jo Cox.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Some find it misogynistic to call a woman a cunt.

But they are just wankers.

[Rhiannon]

Katie Hopkins is a woman (allegedly), so you can't criticise her without being accused of misogyny.

The ‘allegedly’ there is misogynistic. She doesn’t conform to feminine stereotypes, therefore is only ‘allegedly’ a woman.

[Nearly Sane]

Some find it misogynistic to call a woman a cunt.

Not that I buy into that, I won’t have a name for my genitalia being the worst thing you can call someone. But it’s a point of view.

I don't think in itself it is necessarily misogynistic but in the post it reads like a deliberate choice based on her being a woman, and followed up with idea from SteveH that that is 'allegedly', that Hopkins is a woman seems to be of some import to posters - that's what feels misogynistic.

[Rhiannon]

The only person I know in this country who has been assassinated for real recently has been Jo Cox.

Well yes, and I’m still waiting for Corbyn to ask to meet with Britain First like he did the murderers of Ian Gow. But apparently they aren’t the right kind of political terrorist.

[Nearly Sane]

The only person I know in this country who has been assassinated for real recently has been Jo Cox.

Which doesn't make any difference that you think the assassination of Hopkins is something that you can make cheap jokes about. Indeed in that sense you are mocking Jo Cox.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

I don't think in itself it is necessarily misogynistic but in the post it reads like a deliberate choice based on her being a woman, and followed up with idea from SteveH that that is 'allegedly', that Hopkins is a woman seems to be of some import to posters - that's what feels misogynistic.

Actually I wrote C**t. Not to call someone a C**t who one feels to be a C**t because that person is a woman is sexism.

[Nearly Sane]

Actually I wrote C**t. Not to call someone a C**t who one feels to be a C**t because that person is a woman is sexism.

I don't know why you think using asterisks here makes any difference.  Perhaps thinking that female genitalia are the worst thing you can call anyone is indicative of misogyny? And of course you seem to think the killing of another human being is funny.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Which doesn't make any difference that you think the assassination of Hopkins is something that you can make cheap jokes about. Indeed in that sense you are mocking Jo Cox.

No. you are by equating humour at the notional demise of a celebrity who has rendered herself a mere caricature, with assassination.
I will be looking for instances when you say there should be no sacred cows in humour.
I notice that you and Rhiannon did not attack the other 'cheap jokes' so your objections can be dismissed as 'Vlad' obsession.

[Rhiannon]

Which doesn't make any difference that you think the assassination of Hopkins is something that you can make cheap jokes about. Indeed in that sense you are mocking Jo Cox.

Yes, agreed.

[Rhiannon]

No. you are by equating humour at the notional demise of a celebrity who has rendered herself a mere caricature, with assassination.
I will be looking for instances when you say there should be no sacred cows in humour.
I notice that you and Rhiannon did not attack the other 'cheap jokes' so your objections can be dismissed as 'Vlad' obsession.

I suggest you go back and read what we both write.

Your narcissism is shining this morning.

[Nearly Sane]

No. you are by equating humour at the notional demise of a celebrity who has rendered herself a mere caricature, with assassination.
I will be looking for instances when you say there should be no sacred cows in humour.
I notice that you and Rhiannon did not attack the other 'cheap jokes' so your objections can be dismissed as 'Vlad' obsession.

Ah nice use of the tu quoque there, and a bit of victim blaming. Perhaps rather than looking to blame others for your burst of unpleasantness, then you look to yourself and consider how Christian that post of yours felt to write.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Ah nice use of the tu quoque there, and a bit of victim blaming. Perhaps rather than looking to blame others for your burst of unpleasantness, then you look to yourself and consider how Christian that post of yours felt to write.

Victim blaming? Katie Hopkin's hasn't really been assassinated.... has she?

[Nearly Sane]

Victim blaming? Katie Hopkin's hasn't really been assassinated.... has she?

You think you can think of it as a caricature to joke about her murder because it is in your opinion her fault for making you do that. That's victim blaming, Any luck on you finding out how Christian you felt writing a post about how funny it might be for another  person to be murdered?