I can't believe some of these people are for real!

[floo]

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[Maeght]

What's it about?

[Robbie]

Mainly - obese people.

There was one woman who appeared to have a large tail trailing from under her skirt but as it is all taken out of context, she could have been en route to a fancy dress party. We'll never know.

The rest were extremely fat people wearing ill fitting clothes, going about their daily duties in a supermarket.

We know there are obsese people around here and in America, I think this youtube clip was taken in America.

Not a very kind film and, LR, haven't you anything better to do than voyeur on those less fortunate than yourself?  If you or I were severely overweight we'd be able to afford decent clothes, the film was obviously of poor people who couldn't.

[Rhiannon]

I clicked on the link, got a feel for what it was immediately and came off the site. It is disgusting invasion of privacy.

And why the fuck are images of fat people unsuitable for kids is just beyond me. Shouldn’t they be learning that people come in all shapes and sizes? Pointing and laughing at fat people is acceptable in a way no other kind of bulllying is, yet few choose to be obese and very often there are underlying health conditions to blame, or simply poverty.

This has really pissed me off.

[Nearly Sane]

Not going to link. Thanks for the warning, Robbie and Rhiannon.

[Rhiannon]

There is no excuse for being the size some of those people are when a lot of people in this world are starving!

I was referring to the disgusting creeps who were wearing inappropriate clothing, not being suitable for small children to see, imo.

Hasn’t it occurred to you that poverty is the reason that so many people are obese? What do you think is cheaper, a McDonalds or a basket of fruit and veg? And which is more calorie-dense? Which will actually stop poor people from feeling hungry?

[jeremyp]

Hasn’t it occurred to you that poverty is the reason that so many people are obese?

The main reason why fat people are fat is because they eat x calories and burn off y calories during their daily activities but y < x.

[Harrowby Hall]

There is no excuse for being the size some of those people are when a lot of people in this world are starving!

I was referring to the disgusting creeps who were wearing inappropriate clothing, not being suitable for small children to see, imo.

You are being very judgmental, aren't you! Why are the unfortunate people who this intrusive video display to the world "disgusting creeps"? Isn't the person who filmed and then put them on YouTube the "disgusting creep"? Perhaps you should consider that they may lack the ability to access appropriate medical services in the USA.

As Rhiannon points out, calories are cheap.

[Maeght]

Thanks for the summaries, won't bother watching that.

[Rhiannon]

The main reason why fat people are fat is because they eat x calories and burn off y calories during their daily activities but y < x.

Try getting enough calories on benefits.

[Gordon]

Not going to link. Thanks for the warning, Robbie and Rhiannon.

My sentiments too.

[Rhiannon]

Can’t we make this thread go away? I’m uncomfortable with links like the one in the op being shared here.

[Robbie]

There is no excuse for being the size some of those people are when a lot of people in this world are starving!

I was referring to the disgusting creeps who were wearing inappropriate clothing, not being suitable for small children to see, imo.

Please note this from my previous post: "If you or I were severely overweight we'd be able to afford decent clothes, the film was obviously of poor people who couldn't."

Honestly do you have nothing better to do than voyeur?

(Just seen this)
Can’t we make this thread go away? I’m uncomfortable with links like the one in the op being shared here.

You have a point.

[Harrowby Hall]

BBC 1 - now.

Britain's Fat Fight

If you miss it then watch on iPlayer.

[Nearly Sane]

BBC 1 - now.

Britain's Fat Fight

If you miss it then watch on iPlayer.

And that relates to the OP in what way?

[Rhiannon]

And that relates to the OP in what way?

It’s certainly a more humane and less shaming look at why so many people are struggling. The ‘no excuse’ line looks weaker and weaker.

[Robbie]

I presume he means it's relevant because it is about fat people, like the link in the op. I've often seen programmes about obesity advertised on TV but not bothered to watch them.

Haven't watched this one but I'd think it would have a kinder, more helpful, approach than that awful link. A TV chef talking about all the rubbish people eat and how to avoid it (on a budget, hopefully).

[Rhiannon]

We’re now even beginning to understand that the gut microbiome is related to obesity - get that fixed and people have a better chance of reduced weight and blood sugar. Again it’s the poorest, with the most rubbish diets, who are mostly likely to be deficient, apart from those with existing health issues such as needing lung term antibiotics. Perhaps in the long term poo transplants will be used as a weight loss measure.

[Steve H]

Also, "for real" is a stupid, meaningless Americanism. What's wrong with "...are real"?

[Rhiannon]

Also, "for real" is a stupid, meaningless Americanism. What's wrong with "...are real"?

I think ‘for real’ means something slightly different -  ‘having a laugh’ or ‘taking the mick’ is closer. That’s how I see it anyway.

[Harrowby Hall]

And that relates to the OP in what way?

Instead of trying to be clever (and failing) why don't you watch the programme and find out?


It is about a very real national problem and is looking at practical, realistic ways of tacking the problem. As far as I am concerned, its relevance lies in the fact that I have recently been identified as pre-diabetic and I have a BMI of 27.

[Harrowby Hall]

Haven't watched this one  ...

Then I would. I think that you may find it rather different from what you expect.

[Harrowby Hall]

We’re now even beginning to understand that the gut microbiome is related to obesity - get that fixed and people have a better chance of reduced weight and blood sugar. Again it’s the poorest, with the most rubbish diets, who are mostly likely to be deficient, apart from those with existing health issues such as needing lung term antibiotics. Perhaps in the long term poo transplants will be used as a weight loss measure.

Faecal transplants may help with the physiology of weight control but unless behaviour is changed they will only be a short-term measure. Eating habits - continuing to consume foods which will encourage the modified biome to revert to its previous state must be tackled. Appropriate learning is as important as clinical intervention.

[Nearly Sane]

Instead of trying to be clever (and failing) why don't you watch the programme and find out?


It is about a very real national problem and is looking at practical, realistic ways of tacking the problem. As far as I am concerned, its relevance lies in the fact that I have recently been identified as pre-diabetic and I have a BMI of 27.

Wasn't trying to be clever. Just wasn't sure what point you were making. Given the sound of the link in the OP, you post might be taken in a number of ways.

[Steve H]

I make no apology for this posting thread. We hear a lot about people going hungry in this country, and food banks being set up to help them. Grossly overweight people are eating a HUGE amount of food to get to this size, I think it is immoral when others are going hungry. If they have a food addiction they can get help for it.

You never make any apology for anything, so that's no surprise. You are excessivley narrow-minded and judgemental.