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Rhiannon

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Kirstie Allsopp.
« on: September 11, 2018, 03:51:50 PM »
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Re: Kirstie Allsopp.
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2018, 04:51:47 PM »
It seems a bit OTT to smash them. I would have removed the ipads for a period of time if my children had disobeyed my rules, if such things had been around when they were young.
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Re: Kirstie Allsopp.
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2018, 04:52:19 PM »
Yeah, just read that.  I really don't know what she was thinking when she smashed the two iPads. Maybe she had taken them away before and given them back and she wanted her children to know this is final.

I'm not trying to justify her actions though, just trying to understand them.
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Re: Kirstie Allsopp.
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2018, 04:55:29 PM »
Quote from: Littleroses on September 11, 2018, 04:51:47 PM
It seems a bit OTT to smash them. I would have removed the ipads for a period of time if my children had disobeyed my rules, if such things had been around when they were young.
It suggests someone out of control, acting (ironically) childishly  and perhaps even acting out of spite when - as plenty of people have said - they could simply have been confiscated, either for a certain period of time or if permanently, given to charity or something along those lines.

Not impressed.
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Re: Kirstie Allsopp.
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2018, 05:26:35 PM »
Quote from: Shaker on September 11, 2018, 04:55:29 PM
It suggests someone out of control, acting (ironically) childishly  and perhaps even acting out of spite when - as plenty of people have said - they could simply have been confiscated, either for a certain period of time or if permanently, given to charity or something along those lines.

Not impressed.

You can confiscate them, sell them, donate them to a refuge. Or just switch off the WiFi.

It sounds spiteful to me. And it’s the act of someone who is privileged enough not to give a shit about the money wasted by destroying two expensive (to most people) gadgets.

It’s an astonishing lesson to teach children. ‘I am in a position of power, therefore I can take and destroy things that are yours.’ It’s an abuse of trust.
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Re: Kirstie Allsopp.
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2018, 05:29:54 PM »
Completely agree. Her attempted defence of her actions has been frankly pathetic, and to people on the breadline, insulting, in my view. How many parents on low incomes would love to give their kids an iPad? How many people would like one themselves? A fair few, surely.
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Re: Kirstie Allsopp.
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2018, 05:40:12 PM »
Quote from: jeremyp on September 11, 2018, 04:52:19 PM
I'm not trying to justify her actions though, just trying to understand them.
I think we're all trying to do that but even after her would-be explanation/justification I don't think we're much the wiser and we can only go on how it appears to us. To me, it looks simply like spite.
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Re: Kirstie Allsopp.
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2018, 07:46:51 PM »
Quote from: Shaker on September 11, 2018, 05:40:12 PM
I think we're all trying to do that but even after her would-be explanation/justification I don't think we're much the wiser and we can only go on how it appears to us. To me, it looks simply like spite.

A show of power. A need for control, maybe?
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Re: Kirstie Allsopp.
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2018, 07:55:47 AM »
Quote from: Rhiannon on September 11, 2018, 05:26:35 PM
And it’s the act of someone who is privileged enough not to give a shit about the money wasted by destroying two expensive (to most people) gadgets.

It’s an astonishing lesson to teach children. ‘I am in a position of power, therefore I can take and destroy things that are yours.’ It’s an abuse of trust.
I agree that this is an act of someone rich and privileged as only that kind of person could contemplate destroying items worth hundreds of pounds.

But it also sends a terrible message to her kids about looking after their things. I'm sure all of us with kids have been frustrated when our kids seem to have no responsibility for their things, not seeming to care if something that might be quite expensive gets lost or broken. Well how are they going to learn that they must look after their things if their mother shows absolutely no qualms in deliberately destroying things of value.

If she wanted to permanently remove them she should have donated them to others who might otherwise have not been able to afford an iPad, or even sold them - but to destroy them is a kind of Bullingdon-esque approach.
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Re: Kirstie Allsopp.
« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2018, 04:10:14 PM »
I see her eldest child (11) is called Bay Atlas, poor kid! :o
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Re: Kirstie Allsopp.
« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2018, 04:33:16 PM »
Quote from: Littleroses on September 12, 2018, 04:10:14 PM
I see her eldest child (11) is called Bay Atlas, poor kid! :o
Her partner's kids are called Hal and Orion, from which I take the message that he is as big a twat as she is.

They deserve each other. Alas, the kids don't.

Still: by all accounts Twitter is lighter to the tune of one idiot.
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Re: Kirstie Allsopp.
« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2018, 05:06:17 PM »
Quote from: Littleroses on September 12, 2018, 04:10:14 PM
I see her eldest child (11) is called Bay Atlas, poor kid! :o
Her other son is called Oscar Hercules :o
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Re: Kirstie Allsopp.
« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2018, 05:09:24 PM »
Quote from: ProfessorDavey on September 12, 2018, 05:06:17 PM
Her other son is called Oscar Hercules :o


I don't mind the name Oscar, but thank goodness Hercules is his second name. :o
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Re: Kirstie Allsopp.
« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2018, 06:28:57 PM »
As I was just saying to my younger grandson, wee Confucius, people that give their kids daft names are invariably dicks.
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Re: Kirstie Allsopp.
« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2018, 06:36:26 PM »
Quote from: Gordon on September 12, 2018, 06:28:57 PM
As I was just saying to my younger grandson, wee Confucius, people that give their kids daft names are invariably dicks.

Badum tish  ;D
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Re: Kirstie Allsopp.
« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2018, 06:39:19 PM »
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Re: Kirstie Allsopp.
« Reply #16 on: September 12, 2018, 06:50:52 PM »
Pity she didn't have a child called Lickerish
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Re: Kirstie Allsopp.
« Reply #17 on: September 12, 2018, 06:57:23 PM »
My husband and I liked the name Cosmas Indicopleustes a Greek merchant whom he came across when studying science and religion for his first degree in the 60s. So we gave our little one that name. :)
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Re: Kirstie Allsopp.
« Reply #18 on: September 12, 2018, 07:05:32 PM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on September 12, 2018, 06:50:52 PM
Pity she didn't have a child called Lickerish

Now that you come to mention it!
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Re: Kirstie Allsopp.
« Reply #19 on: September 12, 2018, 07:32:02 PM »
Quote from: Littleroses on September 12, 2018, 06:57:23 PM
My husband and I liked the name Cosmas Indicopleustes a Greek merchant whom he came across when studying science and religion for his first degree in the 60s. So we gave our little one that name. :)
And did they sail to India?
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Re: Kirstie Allsopp.
« Reply #20 on: September 13, 2018, 08:27:00 AM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on September 12, 2018, 07:32:02 PM
And did they sail to India?


No they topped themselves instead! :o (the little one was our first kitten)
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Re: Kirstie Allsopp.
« Reply #21 on: September 13, 2018, 02:06:01 PM »
This is a storm in a tea pot type thread not worth anything much of a comment this woman smashed her children's iPads so what?

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Re: Kirstie Allsopp.
« Reply #22 on: September 13, 2018, 02:40:14 PM »
I agree with you ippy. She didn't smash them in uncontrolled rage, she banged them against the table - after warnings.  Might even be able to have them mended for all we know! I had computer mended after walking on screen when it was open on the floor.

Maybe we wouldn't have done that, perhaps locked them away somewhere for a while instead but what's done is done. Kirstie Allsop said in the Jeremy Vine interview that she hadn't talked about it before (& I bet now she wished she'd stuck to that), but parents of young children are always moaning about how long there kids are on their ipads despite rules, and trying to come up with ways of reducing it. Kirstie did. Bit drastic maybe but not the end of the world.

Someone I knew cut their child's bike in half because people had told him the kid was careering around on it unsafely. Again I think I'd have locked the bike in garage but the boy had been warned and eventually dad had had enough. Life went on, he wasn't a bad father.

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Re: Kirstie Allsopp.
« Reply #23 on: September 13, 2018, 04:39:31 PM »
The fact that (by all accounts) this was an act done while she was cam makes it worse, not better. Doing something in the heat of the moment I can get; thinking about it first is purely an act of control, and is a very cold thing to do. Parentling isn't all about rules and consequences; sometimes it is about empathy, and wondering what it is we teach our kids by our own actions.

I don't give a shit is she had the ipad repaired (minimum a hundred quid per repair and that's if you don't use Apple) or if she replaced. them. One message her kids got is, 'we are so fucking rich we can do this'. The bike thing I can actually get because a pissed off kid is better than a dead one; Fortnite isn't fatal.

And Alsopp is a Sharenter and has been for some time. Do her kids want to be all over her social media?
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Re: Kirstie Allsopp.
« Reply #24 on: September 13, 2018, 04:44:18 PM »
Quote from: Rhiannon on September 13, 2018, 04:39:31 PM
And Alsopp is a Sharenter and has been for some time.
Well, I've learnt a new word today  :)
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