Crossword Clues Part 2

[SusanDoris]

Today's Quick: done except for a clu: Fisherman's tool (7,3) L - - - S - -  POT but I don't care what the answer is!

Cryptic: I haven't even managed to read all the clues yet, as quite a few of them take up three lines or more and there are sever Across and Down clues which had to be printed on to another page.

Managed one so far: INCH Clue: Measure edge (4)

So it's definitely not by my favourite setter!

[bluehillside Retd.]

Hi Susan,

Today's Quick: done except for a clu: Fisherman's tool (7,3) L - - - S - -  POT but I don't care what the answer is!

Then make it snappy!

Cryptic: I haven't even managed to read all the clues yet, as quite a few of them take up three lines or more and there are sever Across and Down clues which had to be printed on to another page.

Managed one so far: INCH Clue: Measure edge (4)

So it's definitely not by my favourite setter!

A journey of a thousand miles and all that. Good luck!

[bluehillside Retd.]

PS You've got the S in the wrong place by the way.

[SusanDoris]

Hi Susan,

Then make it snappy!

Okay -  LOBSTER POT!!

A journey of a thousand miles and all that. Good luck!

There are about half a dozen very long answers, sometimes split into two, but I'm hoping they're the sort that tend to fall into place more easily than
the short ones.
Been out as usual with a friend for coffee and a teacake so perhaps that willhelp...

[bluehillside Retd.]

Susan,

There are about half a dozen very long answers, sometimes split into two, but I'm hoping they're the sort that tend to fall into place more easily than
the short ones.
Been out as usual with a friend for coffee and a teacake so perhaps that willhelp...

Hope so. If that fails though, maybe try a nip of something a little stronger? 

Re the cryptic, I find that the long answer puzzles are often easier than the niggly little ones because they drop letters all over the place that help with other clues.   

[SusanDoris]

Susan,
Hope so. If that fails though, maybe try a nip of something a little stronger? 
Re the cryptic, I find that the long answer puzzles are often easier than the niggly little ones because they drop letters all over the place that help with other clues.

Here's a sample: carpenter's mate with uniform held in stomach, sadly English droopy feature (6,9)

No hints requested yet, but CHISEL WASTLINE fits! Of course it would have to be chiselled wouldn't it.

any use? Or shall I forget that!

[bluehillside Retd.]

Hi Susan,

Here's a sample: carpenter's mate with uniform held in stomach, sadly English droopy feature (6,9)

No hints requested yet, but CHISEL WASTLINE fits! Of course it would have to be chiselled wouldn't it.

any use? Or shall I forget that!

Forget it (sorry!). I admit it took me a while though – the “droopy feature” gave it away in the end, and I worked back from that. The “carpenter’s mate” is a literary reference by the way.

[SusanDoris]

Hi Susan,

Forget it (sorry!). I admit it took me a while though – the “droopy feature” gave it away in the end, and I worked back from that. The “carpenter’s mate” is a literary reference by the way.

So far I have five clues definitely right and the first letter of the 9-letter word is M
Various words and phrases I've been thinking of, but nothing yet that fits!

[Enki]

First word is definitely not from the Owl and the Pussycat. Wrong author!

[SusanDoris]

First word is definitely not from the Owl and the Pussycat. Wrong author!

I thought it might be 'The Walrus and The Carpenter' so looked it up, but no words in it fit!!!

Actually, although the clues are mostly long, I can see I will probably be able to get quite a few by, say, Wednesday!
Ever the optimist!

[bluehillside Retd.]

Susan,

I thought it might be 'The Walrus and The Carpenter' so looked it up, but no words in it fit!!!

Actually, although the clues are mostly long, I can see I will probably be able to get quite a few by, say, Wednesday!
Ever the optimist!

Pretty sure one of the words in the title fits!

[SusanDoris]

Susan,

Pretty sure one of the words in the title fits!

But, but but, ...if it's WALRUS MOUSTACHE, where does the 'uniform held in' come in?! I can see that the letters of stomach are in moustache, and that it ends with ACHE and the moustache is droopy, but, well,  perhaps my level of optimism should be  lowered a bit!

[bluehillside Retd.]

Susan,

But, but but, ...if it's WALRUS MOUSTACHE, where does the 'uniform held in' come in?! I can see that the letters of stomach are in moustache, and that it ends with ACHE and the moustache is droopy, but, well,  perhaps my level of optimism should be  lowered a bit!

Let’s dissect it: 

Carpenter's mate with uniform held in stomach, sadly English droopy feature

So we know that the “droopy feature” is the synonym for WALRUS MOUSTACHE. We also know that the “carpenter’s mate” provides the WALRUS bit (from the poem). The standard abbreviation for “uniform” is U (as in police letters - Whiskey, Tango, Foxtrot, Uniform etc), and we’re told that it’s “held by” (ie, inside) the stomach bit. We’re also given “sadly” though, that tells us that we’re dealing with an anagram (of "stomach" with a U inside it). Then all we have to do is to add the “English” (ie, E) at the end and we have it.     

[SusanDoris]

Susan,

Let’s dissect it: 

Carpenter's mate with uniform held in stomach, sadly English droopy feature

So we know that the “droopy feature” is the synonym for WALRUS MOUSTACHE. We also know that the “carpenter’s mate” provides the WALRUS bit (from the poem). The standard abbreviation for “uniform” is U (as in police letters - Whiskey, Tango, Foxtrot, Uniform etc), and we’re told that it’s “held by” (ie, inside) the stomach bit. We’re also given “sadly” though, that tells us that we’re dealing with an anagram (of "stomach" with a U inside it). Then all we have to do is to add the “English” (ie, E) at the end and we have it.   

Many thanks - I must remember about the U for uniform.

Edited to add: It can't be an anagram as suggested below because there is a C in it somewhere. I am fairly certain it  begins with O.

Yesterday evening I told my subconscious to work out the answer to the following clue, but it has failed to do so!I think it is an anagram of ]men soppy meeting'. If that is wrong, I would appreciate a 'right'' or 'wrong' but am not asking for hints - well, not yet anyway! No letters available. 

It turns men soppy - meeting celebrity player (15)

[bluehillside Retd.]

Hi Susan,

Many thanks - I must remember about the U for uniform.

Edited to add: It can't be an anagram as suggested below because there is a C in it somewhere. I am fairly certain it  begins with O.

Yesterday evening I told my subconscious to work out the answer to the following clue, but it has failed to do so!I think it is an anagram of ]men soppy meeting'. If that is wrong, I would appreciate a 'right'' or 'wrong' but am not asking for hints - well, not yet anyway! No letters available. 

It turns men soppy - meeting celebrity player (15)

Wrong I'm afraid, but you're on the right lines with you anagram idea for part of it.

[bluehillside Retd.]

Susan,

Edited to add: It can't be an anagram as suggested below because there is a C in it somewhere. I am fairly certain it  begins with O.

Both wrong I'm afraid. 

[SusanDoris]

Susan,

Both wrong I'm afraid.

Oh dear! I find that the C came from TOPICAL which should have been 19 across not 19 down. I have erased the wrong letters (using rubber on end of new pencil bought expressly for the purpose! )   and i'll try and sort out the anagram later.

[bluehillside Retd.]

Susan,

Oh dear! I find that the C came from TOPICAL which should have been 19 across not 19 down. I have erased the wrong letters (using rubber on end of new pencil bought expressly for the purpose! )   and i'll try and sort out the anagram later.

No problem – I’m sure you’ll get it eventually. Incidentally, you can subscribe to the Torygraph online if you like and do the crossword that way, though please don’t do that if it stops your daily constitutional to the paper shop. My mum (who’s probably about the same age as you) does both. 

[SusanDoris]

Susan,

No problem – I’m sure you’ll get it eventually. Incidentally, you can subscribe to the Torygraph online if you like and do the crossword that way, though please don’t do that if it stops your daily constitutional to the paper shop. My mum (who’s probably about the same age as you) does both.

The only way I can do it is via the web site. The Tech chap (from happy-lappy) set up my subscription and showed me what steps to take to get to the crosswords. I put it on screen then print it off on an A4 sheet of paper, so that I can put it on the CCTV and magnify it on the screen.   I sometimes don't  get the letters exactly in the squares, but it doesn't matter if it is not neat and tidy!

say hello to your Mum from me.   I think I'm probably a bit older.

I think I'm going to ask for an answer to the clue, please. I think it is an anagram of 'men soppy meeting' but trying to see and  re-arrange 15 letters is  tricky. Will I kick self when I know the answer?! Never mind - I expect I can live with that!!

[bluehillside Retd.]

Susan,

The only way I can do it is via the web site. The Tech chap (from happy-lappy) set up my subscription and showed me what steps to take to get to the crosswords. I put it on screen then print it off on an A4 sheet of paper, so that I can put it on the CCTV and magnify it on the screen.   I sometimes don't  get the letters exactly in the squares, but it doesn't matter if it is not neat and tidy!

say hello to your Mum from me.    I think I'm probably a bit older.

I think I'm going to ask for an answer to the clue, please. I think it is an anagram of 'men soppy meeting' but trying to see and  re-arrange 15 letters is  tricky. Will I kick self when I know the answer?! Never mind - I expect I can live with that!!

Will do, thank you (she’s 80 by the way).

OK, so the clue is: It turns men soppy - meeting celebrity player (15)

As you’ve already worked out the “soppy” tells us that we have an anagram, and “It turns men” is an anagram of INSTRUMENT. 

Then we have the “celebrity” part. If you’re celebrity, you’re “A-list”. Add ALIST to the end of INSTRUMENT and we get INSTRUMENTALIST, which is a synonym for “player”.

[SusanDoris]

Susan,

Will do, thank you (she’s 80 by the way).

OK, so the clue is: It turns men soppy - meeting celebrity player (15)

As you’ve already worked out the “soppy” tells us that we have an anagram, and “It turns men” is an anagram of INSTRUMENT. 

Then we have the “celebrity” part. If you’re celebrity, you’re “A-list”. Add ALIST to the end of INSTRUMENT and we get INSTRUMENTALIST, which is a synonym for “player”.

Many thanks; I would not have got that. I thought it might end in -IST but did not think about it being only part of the answer. I shal not assume in future that all letters as indicated by the number in brackets is the actual number of letters to be anagrammed!

I've done two more clues, but still plenty more left.

[SusanDoris]

I did not look at crossword yesterday, but going to it today, it is remaining tricky. An answer would help here, please, but I think I might have to leave this one very much unfinished!

Chopped-up spam with in mac with cheese as fall-back option? (6,9)
I know this clue has come up since  I've been doing the Cryptic, but I've forgotten the answer. It's one of those with some of it anagram, isn't it? And |I think the cheese was ROQUEFORT but that doesn't help, so it's wrong.
- - C - P - /  - C - - - I- - -

With a bit of luck it will be favourite setter's day this coming Saturday.

[bluehillside Retd.]

Hi again Susan,

I did not look at crossword yesterday, but going to it today, it is remaining tricky. An answer would help here, please, but I think I might have to leave this one very much unfinished!

Chopped-up spam with in mac with cheese as fall-back option? (6,9)
I know this clue has come up since  I've been doing the Cryptic, but I've forgotten the answer. It's one of those with some of it anagram, isn't it? And |I think the cheese was ROQUEFORT but that doesn't help, so it's wrong.
- - C - P - /  - C - - - I- - -

I think I know what it is, but your positioning of the letters is a bit off for it to fit.

You’re right about the anagram part (”chopped up”), and “spam”, “mac” and “cheese” have the right number of letters. All you have to do next is to work out a two-word term for a “fall-back option”.

The only word I could think of that would fit the first part is ESCAPE, so that means the remaining letters must make MECHANISM. I don’t like ESCAPE MECHANISM much as a synonym for “fall-back option” by the way, but I think the setter was quite pleased with himself for getting three foods into the anagram part so perhaps we can forgive him or her!

[SusanDoris]

Hi again Susan,

I think I know what it is, but your positioning of the letters is a bit off for it to fit.

You’re right about the anagram part (”chopped up”), and “spam”, “mac” and “cheese” have the right number of letters. All you have to do next is to work out a two-word term for a “fall-back option”.

The only word I could think of that would fit the first part is ESCAPE, so that means the remaining letters must make MECHANISM. I don’t like ESCAPE MECHANISM much as a synonym for “fall-back option” by the way, but I think the setter was quite pleased with himself for getting three foods into the anagram part so perhaps we can forgive him or her!

Thank you. I had thought it might be ACCEPT but just because it fitted didn't make it sensible.
I'll fill in the answer and see if I can then answer the associated across clues.

[bluehillside Retd.]

Susan,

Thank you. I had thought it might be ACCEPT but just because it fitted didn't make it sensible.
I'll fill in the answer and see if I can then answer the associated across clues.

I admit that "accept" didn't even occur to me! Go luck with the rest though.