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We've had two popes John Paul...
« on: October 05, 2018, 05:57:06 PM »
...so when are we going to get a pope George Ringo?
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Re: We've had two popes John Paul...
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2018, 06:02:11 PM »
When Rome rejoins the true church.
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Re: We've had two popes John Paul...
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2018, 06:30:03 PM »
Quote from: Humph Warden Bennett on October 05, 2018, 06:02:11 PM
When Rome rejoins the true church.

And the true church is?
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Re: We've had two popes John Paul...
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2018, 06:34:46 PM »
Quote from: Littleroses on October 05, 2018, 06:30:03 PM
And the true church is?
Since HWB has posted many times about being Orthodox, what do you think he means?
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Re: We've had two popes John Paul...
« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2018, 06:38:47 PM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on October 05, 2018, 06:34:46 PM
Since HWB has posted many times about being Orthodox, what do you think he means?

I was being sarcastic, as there is no 'true' church, imo! ::)
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Re: We've had two popes John Paul...
« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2018, 06:45:34 PM »
Quote from: Littleroses on October 05, 2018, 06:38:47 PM
I was being sarcastic, as there is no 'true' church, imo! ::)
But there is in HWB's opinion. Since you know that and since he knows you don't believe in it, what did your post add? Btw can you address the questions on the Searching for God thread about whether your post about wanting to lock up a possible child rapist is on the wrong thread
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Re: We've had two popes John Paul...
« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2018, 06:48:38 PM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on October 05, 2018, 06:45:34 PM
But there is in HWB's opinion. Since you know that and since he knows you don't believe in it, what did your post add? Btw can you address the questions on the Searching for God thread about whether your post about wanting to lock up a possible child rapist is on the wrong thread


Blimey you are certainly getting your kicks today by criticising most of my posts. I will be shutting down my computer for the night in a few minutes so you will have to get your fun elsewhere.
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Re: We've had two popes John Paul...
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2018, 06:51:03 PM »
Quote from: Littleroses on October 05, 2018, 06:48:38 PM

Blimey you are certainly getting your kicks today by criticising most of my posts. I will be shutting down my computer for the night in a few minutes so you will have to get your fun elsewhere.
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Re: We've had two popes John Paul...
« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2018, 08:45:01 PM »
Quote from: Littleroses on October 05, 2018, 06:48:38 PM

Blimey you are certainly getting your kicks today by criticising most of my posts. I will be shutting down my computer for the night in a few minutes so you will have to get your fun elsewhere.

Be a bit forgiving L R, I think he's on his way through the menopause at the moment.

Sorry Rhiannon, I didn't mean this as a sexist dig at you, or women in general, no offence intended toward you, N S will be able to cope I'm sure.

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Re: We've had two popes John Paul...
« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2018, 11:36:22 PM »
Quote from: Littleroses on October 05, 2018, 06:38:47 PM
I was being sarcastic, as there is no 'true' church, imo! ::)



There is, you know.
All who confess Christ are part of it.
None of us are perfect, no denomination is perfect either.
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Re: We've had two popes John Paul...
« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2018, 08:44:18 AM »
Quote from: Anchorman on October 05, 2018, 11:36:22 PM


There is, you know.
All who confess Christ are part of it.
None of us are perfect, no denomination is perfect either.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm!
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Re: We've had two popes John Paul...
« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2018, 09:30:43 AM »
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Re: We've had two popes John Paul...
« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2018, 11:30:35 AM »
Quote from: Humph Warden Bennett on October 05, 2018, 06:02:11 PM
When Rome rejoins the true church.

FTR The Orthodox consider the first Pope to have been Leo IX, responsible for the Great Schism (You never know, you might be asked that in a pub quiz)
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Re: We've had two popes John Paul...
« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2018, 11:37:34 AM »
I wonder if the real Jesus, rather than the storybook version, would be gobsmacked if he had realised all the things that would be said and done in his name in the centuries after his death?
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Re: We've had two popes John Paul...
« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2018, 12:29:30 PM »
Quote from: Humph Warden Bennett on October 06, 2018, 11:30:35 AM
FTR The Orthodox consider the first Pope to have been Leo IX, responsible for the Great Schism (You never know, you might be asked that in a pub quiz)
   


Problem there is that there is no one Orthodox church, nor one patriarch....there are several 'popes'.....not just the two ones living in Rome.
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Re: We've had two popes John Paul...
« Reply #15 on: October 06, 2018, 12:48:35 PM »
Quote from: Anchorman on October 06, 2018, 12:29:30 PM
   


Problem there is that there is no one Orthodox church, nor one patriarch....there are several 'popes'.....not just the two ones living in Rome.

Yep, the Coptic Pope now comes to mind.
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Re: We've had two popes John Paul...
« Reply #16 on: October 06, 2018, 02:14:55 PM »
Quote from: Humph Warden Bennett on October 06, 2018, 12:48:35 PM
Yep, the Coptic Pope now comes to mind.



I met him many years ago.
Nice chap.
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Re: We've had two popes John Paul...
« Reply #17 on: October 06, 2018, 02:26:16 PM »
Quote from: Anchorman on October 06, 2018, 12:29:30 PM
   


Problem there is that there is no one Orthodox church, nor one patriarch....there are several 'popes'.....not just the two ones living in Rome.

There a has alway been many patriarchs. So what? It's no argument one way or the other.
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Re: We've had two popes John Paul...
« Reply #18 on: October 06, 2018, 10:29:45 PM »
Quote from: ad_orientem on October 06, 2018, 02:26:16 PM
There a has alway been many patriarchs. So what? It's no argument one way or the other.
 



Actually, it is. Both the Ethiopian Orthodox Church and the Coptic Church - the latter, of course, predates even the construction of Constantinople, claim to be the true church...anong with that of Greece. Now the split-off from the Russian Orthodox claims to be more true to Orthodoxy than the Russian one....There ain't no 'true church', just the One Church - as per the Scripture.
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Re: We've had two popes John Paul...
« Reply #19 on: October 07, 2018, 05:53:58 AM »
Quote from: Anchorman on October 06, 2018, 10:29:45 PM
 



Actually, it is. Both the Ethiopian Orthodox Church and the Coptic Church - the latter, of course, predates even the construction of Constantinople, claim to be the true church...anong with that of Greece. Now the split-off from the Russian Orthodox claims to be more true to Orthodoxy than the Russian one....There ain't no 'true church', just the One Church - as per the Scripture.
We all get it wrong, but, hey, that's fine: God loves and forgives us.
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Wrong again. The Church is visible. And as a protestant you can't use the above as an argument? How many protestant churches are there nowadsys?
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Re: We've had two popes John Paul...
« Reply #20 on: October 07, 2018, 09:45:42 AM »
Quote from: ad_orientem on October 07, 2018, 05:53:58 AM
Wrong again. The Church is visible. And as a protestant you can't use the above as an argument? How many protestant churches are there nowadsys?
I don'y argue from 'protestantism'; ad-o; I argue from Scripture. Now, if you want to argue with the Lord Jesus Christ, feel free to take it up with Him! Remember what He told the disciples who moaned that others who were not part of His circle were doing things in His name? And remember what Paul wrote in Colossians? He (Paul) also wrote about the same thing in Corinth - twice. Oh, and Luke had a few things to say about it in Acts. Now, I know you base your church on tradition....trouble with tradition is that it accumulates stuff, like fluff under the bed. Scripture, however, is unchanged.
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Re: We've had two popes John Paul...
« Reply #21 on: October 07, 2018, 11:10:40 AM »
Quote from: Anchorman on October 07, 2018, 09:45:42 AM
I don'y argue from 'protestantism'; ad-o; I argue from Scripture. Now, if you want to argue with the Lord Jesus Christ, feel free to take it up with Him! Remember what He told the disciples who moaned that others who were not part of His circle were doing things in His name? And remember what Paul wrote in Colossians? He (Paul) also wrote about the same thing in Corinth - twice. Oh, and Luke had a few things to say about it in Acts. Now, I know you base your church on tradition....trouble with tradition is that it accumulates stuff, like fluff under the bed. Scripture, however, is unchanged.
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Re: We've had two popes John Paul...
« Reply #22 on: October 07, 2018, 08:47:18 PM »
Quote from: Anchorman on October 07, 2018, 09:45:42 AM
And remember what Paul wrote in Colossians?

Yes:

“The Ukraine girls really knock me out. They leave the West behind. And Moscow girls make me sing and shout. The Georgia’s always on my mi mi mi mind.”

 
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Re: We've had two popes John Paul...
« Reply #23 on: October 07, 2018, 09:08:15 PM »
Quote from: jeremyp on October 07, 2018, 08:47:18 PM
Yes:

“The Ukraine girls really knock me out. They leave the West behind. And Moscow girls make me sing and shout. The Georgia’s always on my mi mi mi mind.”

 


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Re: We've had two popes John Paul...
« Reply #24 on: October 07, 2018, 09:25:20 PM »
Quote from: Anchorman on October 07, 2018, 09:08:15 PM

"Yellow matter custard
dripping from a dead dog's eye...."

That was John.
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