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Re: Worst TV Comedy Series of all time
« Reply #25 on: October 21, 2018, 08:00:10 PM »

Steptoe and Son …. dire
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Re: Worst TV Comedy Series of all time
« Reply #26 on: October 21, 2018, 10:34:59 PM »
Quote from: Littleroses on October 21, 2018, 12:38:43 PM

It was quite amusing when it first started, but you are correct about it going on for too long.
   


I remember the first three series with the brilliant Michael Bates as Blamire. I seem to rememberr the comedy had a bit of a hard edge.
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Re: Worst TV Comedy Series of all time
« Reply #27 on: October 22, 2018, 12:31:47 PM »
'Till death us do part' was pretty dire, the Alf Garnet character was very racist.
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Re: Worst TV Comedy Series of all time
« Reply #28 on: October 22, 2018, 12:41:57 PM »
Quote from: Littleroses on October 22, 2018, 12:31:47 PM
'Till death us do part' was pretty dire, the Alf Garnet character was very racist.
That was the point. It was satirising racist attitudes. You weren't supposed to admire Alf!
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« Reply #29 on: October 22, 2018, 12:44:20 PM »
Quote from: Steve H on October 22, 2018, 12:41:57 PM
That was the point. It was satirising racist attitudes. You weren't supposed to admire Alf!

It’s amazing how many people still don’t get that. Warren Mitchell himself said so many times that you were meant to laugh at Alf, not with him. 
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Re: Worst TV Comedy Series of all time
« Reply #30 on: October 22, 2018, 12:50:13 PM »
Exactly.  It was very clever.  Alf Garnett the working class Tory.
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Re: Worst TV Comedy Series of all time
« Reply #31 on: October 22, 2018, 01:42:10 PM »
Quote from: Littleroses on October 22, 2018, 12:31:47 PM
'Till death us do part' was pretty dire, the Alf Garnet character was very racist.


TDUDP was superb, searing, biting comedy.
That the racist never won was the whole point!
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Re: Worst TV Comedy Series of all time
« Reply #32 on: October 22, 2018, 02:07:16 PM »
'Till death us do part' started in the 60s when racism was very much in vogue. 'No blacks welcome' were signs that were seen from time to time! >:( I suspect a good number f viewers would have shared Alf Garnet's racist view of the world.
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Re: Worst TV Comedy Series of all time
« Reply #33 on: October 22, 2018, 02:14:18 PM »
Yes they would and the fact that the character of Alf Garnett was a satirisation of someone like that was the whole point of the programme. He was laughable. Not just for racism, his general right wing views.
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Re: Worst TV Comedy Series of all time
« Reply #34 on: October 22, 2018, 02:17:15 PM »
The sequal - "In sickness and in health" was almost as brilliant, with Garnett's foil being not only black, but gay. The genious is, of course, that Warren Mitchell was very much a 'Labour' manthrough and through, and his character was a right wing Tory. Superb acting.
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Re: Worst TV Comedy Series of all time
« Reply #35 on: October 22, 2018, 02:18:03 PM »
Alf was an early example of Poe's Law.
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« Reply #36 on: October 22, 2018, 08:33:15 PM »
Humour's a funny thing, some of the supposedly fun things and people leave me cold and the person next to me prostate with laughter and then again visa versa.

Our individual senses of humour seem to be unexplainable, the tastes we have must be shaped by so many facets of our individual histories and more, I'll put up my hands to the view that my humour fixated at about the age of twelve and I don't mind who says so, I would have to agree.

People without an apparent sense of humour, you do get the odd one from time to time, are put on the earth to amplify the fun others have due to the serious looks on their faces.

It's an impossible job to analyse humour, I loved Bob Monkhouse's remark about sex at 70? he said he lives at number 65 himself.

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Re: Worst TV Comedy Series of all time
« Reply #37 on: October 22, 2018, 10:43:26 PM »
Warren Mitchell was also Jewish, and I don't suppose Jews would be especially popular with Alf Garnett, either.
Woss Poe's law?
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Re: Worst TV Comedy Series of all time
« Reply #38 on: October 22, 2018, 10:59:48 PM »
Quote from: Steve H on October 22, 2018, 10:43:26 PM
Warren Mitchell was also Jewish, and I don't suppose Jews would be especially popular with Alf Garnett, either.
Woss Poe's law?


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law
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Re: Worst TV Comedy Series of all time
« Reply #40 on: October 22, 2018, 11:06:43 PM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on October 22, 2018, 10:59:48 PM

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law

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I was just wondering who might want to desperately parody a creationist and that reminded me of a story of an antitheist comedian who apparently couldn't go on stage because he ''felt a bit funny''. His manager told him to ''get on quickly before it wore off''
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Re: Worst TV Comedy Series of all time
« Reply #41 on: October 23, 2018, 12:29:52 AM »
Quote from: The poster formerly known as.... on October 22, 2018, 11:06:43 PM
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I was just wondering who might want to desperately parody a creationist and that reminded me of a story of an antitheist comedian who apparently couldn't go on stage because he ''felt a bit funny''. His manager told him to ''get on quickly before it wore off''
It gets funnier every time you tell it....











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Re: Worst TV Comedy Series of all time
« Reply #42 on: October 23, 2018, 07:24:45 PM »
Quote from: Rhiannon on October 22, 2018, 12:44:20 PM
It’s amazing how many people still don’t get that. Warren Mitchell himself said so many times that you were meant to laugh at Alf, not with him.
The problem I have with that is that I found him so obnoxious that I couldn't get into the programme. The protagonists need to have something about them to make them sympathetic.
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Re: Worst TV Comedy Series of all time
« Reply #43 on: October 23, 2018, 07:29:43 PM »
Quote from: jeremyp on October 23, 2018, 07:24:45 PM
The problem I have with that is that I found him so obnoxious that I couldn't get into the programme. The protagonists need to have something about them to make them sympathetic.

Alf Garnett was West Ham. Isn't that sympathetic enough? LOL!
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Re: Worst TV Comedy Series of all time
« Reply #44 on: October 23, 2018, 07:39:34 PM »
Quote from: ad_orientem on October 23, 2018, 07:29:43 PM
Alf Garnett was West Ham. Isn't that sympathetic enough? LOL!
Hmm let me - an Arsenal supporter - think about that for a moment.... no.
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Re: Worst TV Comedy Series of all time
« Reply #45 on: October 29, 2018, 04:59:31 PM »
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It must be a very personal thing because I can't, for the life of me, understand why they kept recommissioning Mrs Brown's Boys. Also Two Pints of Lager is about as funny as removing your own appendix with a hacksaw blade.


Certainly agree with those. TV comedy series (apart from panel shows) seem to have gone through a particularly dire period this year. The awfulness of 'Hospital People' and 'Man Like Mobeam' left me speechless (the latter was written in response to 'Citizen Khan', which the writer thought "too stereotypical").
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Re: Worst TV Comedy Series of all time
« Reply #46 on: October 29, 2018, 05:14:15 PM »
Quote from: Dicky Underpants on October 29, 2018, 04:59:31 PM
Certainly agree with those. TV comedy series (apart from panel shows) seem to have gone through a particularly dire period this year. The awfulness of 'Hospital People' and 'Man Like Mobeam' left me speechless (the latter was written in response to 'Citizen Khan', which the writer thought "too stereotypical").

Upstart Crow is cool. New series of that has just aired.
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Re: Worst TV Comedy Series of all time
« Reply #47 on: October 29, 2018, 10:40:30 PM »
Quote from: Rhiannon on October 29, 2018, 05:14:15 PM
Upstart Crow is cool. New series of that has just aired.
Upstart Crow is brilliant. The one in which Hamnet died was rather moving at the end.
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Re: Worst TV Comedy Series of all time
« Reply #48 on: October 29, 2018, 11:24:46 PM »
Quote from: Steve H on October 29, 2018, 10:40:30 PM
Upstart Crow is brilliant. The one in which Hamnet died was rather moving at the end.

I know, I wondered if Ben Elton would duck it, and if not how he'd handle it. I think he pulled it off rather well.
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« Reply #49 on: October 29, 2018, 11:36:48 PM »
Quote from: Rhiannon on October 29, 2018, 11:24:46 PM
I know, I wondered if Ben Elton would duck it, and if not how he'd handle it. I think he pulled it off rather well.
I too had wondered how they would deal with Hamnet's eventual clog-popping.
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