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Aruntraveller

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Music in Films
« on: November 15, 2018, 06:50:19 PM »
Due to a couple of recent viewings I have been thinking about the way music is used in films. I'm not at the moment talking about music composed specifically for films (that could be a whole other topic) but where pre-existing music is used within a film.

The first thing that got me thinking about this was when an honourable member of this place shared a clip on Facebook of the end of a film that never fails to reduce me to tears. The film is "Oh What a Lovely War" and the clip is the song at the end. Here:

https://youtu.be/4RJCSMG1yTE

The combination of music and imagery is a completely intense experience (for me at least) and leaves me breathless and sobbing (I know big old softie).

The other film that got me pondering was a very different film and was on Film4 a couple of nights ago - I saw it when it first came out and re-watched it again. It is called "The Perks of Being a Wallflower" It has a splendid soundtrack which includes David Bowie's Heroes and the combination here of imagery and music sums up the hope, but also somehow the loneliness and sadness of youth. Here:

https://youtu.be/29FDSXSG5RM

So has anybody else got any favourites where the combination of music and images adds up to more than the sum of their parts?

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Re: Music in Films
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2018, 07:26:15 PM »
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The combination of music and imagery is a completely intense experience (for me at least) and leaves me breathless and sobbing (I know big old softie).

Why did you have to ruin everything by calling yourself a "big old softy"? Nobody should belittle themselves for reacting to an intense emotional experience. Jerome Kern's melody is wonderful, and the juxtaposition of crosses and children so thought provoking.
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Re: Music in Films
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2018, 07:34:45 PM »
Apologies HH. It is how I see myself. I am someone who can cry through entire series' of The Waltons. I also seem to have inherited from my father an almost physical response to some types of music. I don't go to opera anymore. It's too upsetting, not for me, but everyone else around me.
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« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2018, 08:37:25 PM »
I'm similar but I don't worry about it.

On Sunday morning the radio was on - there was some kind of church service on Radio 4 commemorating the Armistice. I wasn't really listening to it though I was appreciating its appropriateness. Then - almost at the end - was In Paradisum from Faure's Requiem. That did it. I was in tears.

I heard Mirga conduct the Faure at Symphony Hall earlier this year. There were some pieces by Lili Boulanger in the concert - she had died at the age of 24. I'll bet I wasn't the only person in the hall with tears running down his cheeks.
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« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2018, 09:56:53 AM »
I loved the use of Elgar's Chanson de Matin in Enchanted April.

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Re: Music in Films
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2018, 01:57:48 PM »

So has anybody else got any favourites where the combination of music and images adds up to more than the sum of their parts?

In Kill Bill volume 1, the sound track to the scene where The Bride dismembers (literally) the entire Crazy 88 makes it watchable.

Also, the final scene of Blackadder Goes Forth with the TV theme played over it at a slow tempo would be different without it.
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« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2018, 05:22:57 PM »
Rachmaninov's second piano concerto appears a few times in The Seven Year Itch. The Marilyn Monroe character declares that it is "classical". When asked how she knows this, her reply is something like "Easy. No vocal."
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Re: Music in Films
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2018, 12:51:15 AM »
My most fave composer for films is Bernard Herrmann.
Simply superb & have been trying to get as many CDs as I can over the years.
Seem to have DVDs of nearly all he composed for, too. Also other stuff such as certain concertos.

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Re: Music in Films
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2018, 09:02:58 AM »
I think that I must highlight some examples of film music by English composers. William Walton's score for Olivier's Henry V is wonderful - the opening sequence takes us into Elizabethan London and joins the groundlings in the Globe theatre. Walton's music complements the images perfectly. And his later use of three Auvergnat songs to underscore the French court is so appropriate.

Ralph Vaughan Williams also wrote film scores. He adapted the music he wrote for Scott of the Antarctic into his Sinfonia Antarctica. Apparently, he produced rather too much music for one scene. Instead of asking VW to modify it, Charles Frend reshot the scene so that the music would not be changed.

Who can forget Malcolm Arnold's music for The Bridge on the River Kwai? He turned Colonel Bogey into a national treasure.

Contrary to popular opinion, Eric Coates (another Nottingham man, Trent) did not write his march specifically for The Dam Busters. He was asked to score the film but declined - he did not like the idea of writing film scores. Apparently, he picked up a march he had recently written - an exercise in writing Elgar-style marches - handed it to the filmmakers and said something to the effect of "You can use this if you like." Leighton Lucas used the march as the basis for his score.
But ... was ever a single piece of music more appropriate for its adopted subject?

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Admittedly not an English composer, but at least a half-English singer - Audrey Hepburn and Moon River.
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Re: Music in Films
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2018, 10:51:42 AM »
Rachmaninov's second piano concerto appears a few times in The Seven Year Itch. The Marilyn Monroe character declares that it is "classical". When asked how she knows this, her reply is something like "Easy. No vocal."
It also featured prominently in the 1945 film Brief Encounter.

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Re: Music in Films
« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2018, 01:52:24 AM »

The scene in 2001 A Space oOdessey, the chimp with the bones to Also sprach Zarathusta . . .
 
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