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Nearly Sane

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Drones at Gatwick
« on: December 20, 2018, 09:58:42 AM »
We really aren't very good at dealing with the implications of technology.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-england-sussex-46564814
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Re: Drones at Gatwick
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2018, 10:05:36 AM »
Nope. We just let it happen and only when the issue becomes a problem or too big do we start to wonder what to do about it.

Too much money to be made selling the things too worry about safety.

Partner reckons something will only really be done when an aircraft has been brought down. I fear he is correct in his assessment.
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Re: Drones at Gatwick
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2018, 10:29:17 AM »
Legislation change is glacial in comparison to technological change. It's also quite difficult to think out all the implications of technology.
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Re: Drones at Gatwick
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2018, 10:37:54 AM »
There's an association for drone-flying enthusiasts. It's called the Drones Club.
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Re: Drones at Gatwick
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2018, 10:41:40 AM »
Quote from: Oliphant Chuckerbutty on December 20, 2018, 10:37:54 AM
There's an association for drone-flying enthusiasts. It's called the Drones Club.
:) I doubt Jeeves would approve of drones.
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Re: Drones at Gatwick
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2018, 10:54:47 AM »
Shoot em down, I say.
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Re: Drones at Gatwick
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2018, 10:59:46 AM »
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Re: Drones at Gatwick
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2018, 11:04:02 AM »
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Re: Drones at Gatwick
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2018, 11:11:46 AM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on December 20, 2018, 10:59:46 AM
With what?

Get a shooter. I know a geezer...
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Re: Drones at Gatwick
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2018, 11:16:49 AM »
Or you could always throw stones at them. LOL!
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Re: Drones at Gatwick
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2018, 11:44:02 AM »
The general public should not be permitted to own drones for recreational purposes, as they can cause serious accidents. Their use should be very strictly controlled.
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Re: Drones at Gatwick
« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2018, 01:04:49 PM »
Do we know who is responsible for this ?  It wouldn't surprise me to find it is Extinction Rebellion or some similar group making a point about aviation through disruption.
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Re: Drones at Gatwick
« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2018, 01:23:27 PM »
Haven't seen anything so far that's anything other than speculation but would agree that Extinction Rebellion  might be a possible candidate.
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Re: Drones at Gatwick
« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2018, 01:39:48 PM »
The man across the road bòught a drone so his neighbour bought an even bigger one. So the first neighbour trade his old one for one twice as large...............They were just trying to keep up with the Drones's.
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Re: Drones at Gatwick
« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2018, 01:46:34 PM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on December 20, 2018, 01:23:27 PM
Haven't seen anything so far that's anything other than speculation but would agree that Extinction Rebellion  might be a possible candidate.
The good news is they can hand out a Five stretch for this.
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Re: Drones at Gatwick
« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2018, 02:13:12 PM »
Quote from: torridon on December 20, 2018, 01:04:49 PM
Do we know who is responsible for this ?  It wouldn't surprise me to find it is Extinction Rebellion or some similar group making a point about aviation through disruption.
XR have already denied that they are involved. It is not in their style of protest.
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Re: Drones at Gatwick
« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2018, 04:50:41 PM »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-england-sussex-46564814

The army has now been called in to try to find the people behind this nightmare.
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Re: Drones at Gatwick
« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2018, 05:07:13 PM »
Quote from: Littleroses on December 20, 2018, 11:44:02 AM
The general public should not be permitted to own drones for recreational purposes, as they can cause serious accidents. Their use should be very strictly controlled.

Quite right. The same should also apply to motor vehicles.
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Re: Drones at Gatwick
« Reply #18 on: December 20, 2018, 05:44:30 PM »
Item on the BBC Radio 4 PM programme suggesting that there are readily implementable technical fixes already available which are being used in other countries.

It is simply that HMG have not got round to passing appropriate legislation yet. Possibly due to interDepartmental squabbling,
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Re: Drones at Gatwick
« Reply #19 on: December 20, 2018, 06:09:19 PM »
Quote from: Harrowby Hall on December 20, 2018, 05:07:13 PM
Quite right. The same should also apply to motor vehicles.

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Re: Drones at Gatwick
« Reply #20 on: December 20, 2018, 10:36:18 PM »
Quote from: Littleroses on December 20, 2018, 11:44:02 AM
The general public should not be permitted to own drones for recreational purposes, as they can cause serious accidents. Their use should be very strictly controlled.
Cars can and do cause serious accidents. Do you want the general public banned from owning them as well?
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Re: Drones at Gatwick
« Reply #21 on: December 20, 2018, 10:59:13 PM »
Quote from: Oliphant Chuckerbutty on December 20, 2018, 10:36:18 PM

Cars can and do cause serious accidents. Do you want the general public banned from owning them as well?


A car crash may kill half-a-dozen - bring an aircraft down and kill a couple of hundred
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Re: Drones at Gatwick
« Reply #22 on: December 20, 2018, 11:16:26 PM »
Quote from: Owlswing on December 20, 2018, 10:59:13 PM
A car crash may kill half-a-dozen - bring an aircraft down and kill a couple of hundred
Well over 1,500 people are killed on Britain's roads each year. As far as I can tell from a quick google, precisely one person has been killed by a drone in the UK, ever. Even if a drone were to bring down an aircraft, the deaths from drones would be way below those from road vehicles - and how likely is it that a drone could bring down an aircraft? at the worst, it might knock out one engine, but an aeroplane can fly with one engine down. There should perhaps be restrictions on drone-flying near airports, but really - some people on this forum need a sense of proportion, and a good dose of hard statistics.
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Re: Drones at Gatwick
« Reply #23 on: December 20, 2018, 11:29:06 PM »
And in any case, how likely is it that a drone would bring down an aircraft? Bird strikes are rare, and there are a lot more birds in the air than drones.
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Re: Drones at Gatwick
« Reply #24 on: December 21, 2018, 08:33:36 AM »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-42238115

If there is even the slightest chance of a plane being hit by a drone, they should not be used as play things by the general public.
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