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Re: Drones at Gatwick
« Reply #50 on: December 21, 2018, 03:41:00 PM »
Some could claim wearing a seat belt in a car could encourage people to take risks. ::) I think it is crazy not to wear a cycle helmet, and they should be compulsory for children if not adults. 


BTW Steve do you think motor cyclists should wear helmets, which has been compulsory for quite a while?   

Getting back to the topic of this thread, the police have identified, 'some people of interest'.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-46649704
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Re: Drones at Gatwick
« Reply #51 on: December 21, 2018, 04:21:49 PM »
King Oberon (Your Maj, Sir), When I read about your boy's accident I could picture it quite clearly, can understand how it is the worst thing ever to happen in your life. So glad he recovered but it's not something you ever forget. Bless you.
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Re: Drones at Gatwick
« Reply #52 on: December 21, 2018, 04:34:59 PM »
You'd think the OB or army would have some sort of gadget that could detect where the signals are coming from. Sneak up on them and cosh them on the back of the head.
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Re: Drones at Gatwick
« Reply #53 on: December 21, 2018, 04:36:53 PM »
Quote from: ad_orientem on December 21, 2018, 04:34:59 PM
You'd think the OB or army would habe some sort of gadget that could detect where the signals are coming from. Sneak up on them and cosh them on the back of the head.
Maybe a sly knee in the gonads as they go down?
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Re: Drones at Gatwick
« Reply #54 on: December 21, 2018, 04:38:51 PM »
Quote from: Phyllis Tyne on December 21, 2018, 04:36:53 PM
Maybe a sly knee in the gonads as they go down?

Why not?
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Re: Drones at Gatwick
« Reply #55 on: December 21, 2018, 06:08:47 PM »
Another drone at Gatwick.
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Re: Drones at Gatwick
« Reply #56 on: December 21, 2018, 09:13:53 PM »
Quote from: Phyllis Tyne on December 21, 2018, 06:08:47 PM
Another drone at Gatwick.
Really? Where are you flying to?





Sorry, couldn't resist that, I was feeling a bit funny.
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Re: Drones at Gatwick
« Reply #57 on: December 21, 2018, 10:46:56 PM »
Quote from: Littleroses on December 21, 2018, 03:41:00 PM
Some could claim wearing a seat belt in a car could encourage people to take risks. ::) I think it is crazy not to wear a cycle helmet, and they should be compulsory for children if not adults. 


BTW Steve do you think motor cyclists should wear helmets, which has been compulsory for quite a while?   

Getting back to the topic of this thread, the police have identified, 'some people of interest'.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-46649704
Risk homeostasis applies to any visible and obvious safety measiure, including car seat-belts and motor-cycle helmets, but with most there is presumably a net gain in safety, even after r.h. is allowed for. That is not the case with bike helmets, and in any case, ordinary cycling on roads, SUSTRANs routes and canal towpaths is not particularly dangerous. In 60-odd years of cycing, with a relatively high annual mileage for the last 20 years, I have never suffered even a slight head injury while cycling on roads. (I went over the handlebars and split my forehead open when I was 11 or 12, but that was doing what would nowadays be called downhill mountain biking, where helmets probably are a good idea.) In fact, I've suffered more head injuries as a pedestrian and in the home than I have cycling: should pedestrians and people in the home all wear helmets?
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Re: Drones at Gatwick
« Reply #58 on: December 22, 2018, 12:37:31 AM »
Quote from: Robbie on December 21, 2018, 01:36:55 PM

Have you had various bits fall on you, your house or in your garden Owl? Ooohhh...
jeremy addressed this quite fairly I think. Quote below.



Fortunately, so far, we have only had chunks of ice falling fronm wings, thugh the piece that landed in next doors garden weighed 67 pounds!

As to birds and their negative effect on the internal workings of an aero engine, you only hve to look at the Airbus that landed in the river in the US - it was clearly stated in the report on the accident that it was only because of the skill of a long-serving and experienced pilot that ensured that there was no loss of life - if there had been a less experienced pilot it was reasonable assume that all on board would have died!

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Re: Drones at Gatwick
« Reply #59 on: December 22, 2018, 08:28:10 AM »
Quote from: King Oberon on December 21, 2018, 02:15:03 PM
Bit of a sore subject for me but I feel like sharing this might give you my changed opinion.

I'd never wore a helmet in my life (fell off bikes loads of times) I was out with my son who misheard me and went across the lights and was hit by a bus on his bike (no helmet, I know I've learned the hard way), strangely the driver hit the breaks and he was almost gently tapped by it went over and banged the back of his head, blood coming out of his ears he did some serious damage to the base of his skull.

Not only was i in shock i had to call his (my ex at the time) mother from the ambulance and tell her he didn't have a helmet on. He was in hospital for about 3 weeks, he was about 7 at the time and it was probably the worst thing that's happened to me in my life, and I've led an strange old life. Thankfully he recovered with no long term problems mainly due to the amount of people in the RSPB center next door who had medical experience, luck was with me that day.

He's 20 now and fond of skateboarding, I think we both learned a tough lesson that day, helmet for both of us!

I know its one of these things that happened to someone else, but i'm sure before it happened it would never happen to me :(
I'm glad your son was ok in the end, and if you and he want to wear helmets, by all means do so, but anecdotal evidence is no evidence at all, and it remains the fact that bike helmets make no significant difference, and anyway, ordinary, on-road cycling isn't particulalry dangerous.
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Re: Drones at Gatwick
« Reply #60 on: December 22, 2018, 08:39:56 AM »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-46657505

They have arrested a man and a woman in connection with the drones. If guilty, I hope they are locked up for the full term for this  despicable offence.
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Re: Drones at Gatwick
« Reply #61 on: December 23, 2018, 11:22:21 AM »
The drone suspects have been released without charge.
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Re: Drones at Gatwick
« Reply #62 on: December 23, 2018, 11:40:58 AM »
OB are useless.
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Re: Drones at Gatwick
« Reply #63 on: December 23, 2018, 06:14:51 PM »
And the latest

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-46665615

includes this little gem:

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[Det Ch Supt Jason Tingley] said there was no available footage of the drones and police were relying on witness accounts.

He added there was "always a possibility that there may not have been any genuine drone activity in the first place", but they were working on a range of information from members of the public, police officers and staff working at Gatwick who had reported otherwise.

It's possible the drone was the figment of somebody's imagination. If that's the case, I'm speechless.
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Re: Drones at Gatwick
« Reply #64 on: December 23, 2018, 06:58:27 PM »
Quote from: jeremyp on December 23, 2018, 06:14:51 PM
And the latest

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-46665615

includes this little gem:

It's possible the drone was the figment of somebody's imagination. If that's the case, I'm speechless.
After the miracle of the Sun, the miracle of the drone
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Re: Drones at Gatwick
« Reply #65 on: December 23, 2018, 09:48:37 PM »
Seen elsewhere


'Yesterday, up in the air, I saw a drone that wasn’t there. It wasn’t there again today I wish, I wish it would go away... '
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Re: Drones at Gatwick
« Reply #66 on: December 24, 2018, 08:56:44 AM »
What a screw up! I feel very sorry for those people who were wrongly accused. :o
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Re: Drones at Gatwick
« Reply #67 on: December 24, 2018, 10:11:27 AM »
Quote from: Littleroses on December 24, 2018, 08:56:44 AM
What a screw up! I feel very sorry for those people who were wrongly accused. :o

Did I hear a hint - in some current affairs broadcast or other - that the police had received an anonymous tip off suggesting their involvement?
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Re: Drones at Gatwick
« Reply #68 on: December 24, 2018, 10:24:31 AM »
Quote from: Harrowby Hall on December 24, 2018, 10:11:27 AM
Did I hear a hint - in some current affairs broadcast or other - that the police had received an anonymous tip off suggesting their involvement?

I heard that too.
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Re: Drones at Gatwick
« Reply #69 on: December 24, 2018, 12:44:15 PM »
Yeah, he had drones as a hobby at one time so was scapegoated. OUtrageous. Thankfully he had an alibi, was at work confirmed by his boss. Can you imagine having all that press attention and police coming round when you've done nothing? I felt sorry for him and his wife.
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Re: Drones at Gatwick
« Reply #70 on: December 24, 2018, 01:33:51 PM »
Quote from: Robbie on December 24, 2018, 12:44:15 PM
Yeah, he had drones as a hobby at one time so was scapegoated. OUtrageous. Thankfully he had an alibi, was at work confirmed by his boss. Can you imagine having all that press attention and police coming round when you've done nothing? I felt sorry for him and his wife.

Given the headlines in the likes of the Daily Mail I wouldn't be surprised if they sued for libel.
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Re: Drones at Gatwick
« Reply #71 on: December 24, 2018, 01:37:25 PM »
Quote from: Gordon on December 24, 2018, 01:33:51 PM
Given the headlines in the likes of the Daily Mail I wouldn't be surprised if they sued for libel.
The Hate-mail was as weaselly as usual: the headline said "Are these the morons...?"; question, not statement, just in case. Bastards.
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« Reply #72 on: December 24, 2018, 02:11:03 PM »
Typical!  I hadn't seen that, just saw the man and his wife talking on the television news. They seemed very mild mannered and quite bemused by it all but everyone - boss, neighbours - spoke well of them. You know, 'nice, inoffensive couple. He used to like radio controlled helicopters and then had a couple of drones, can't imagine he'd do anything irresponsible'.

Well they certainly deserve an apology at the very least. I'd love the Mail to have to pay out but they struck me (not that I know them of course), as being the sort of people who will just put it behind them and perhaps even chuckle at the memory. Yet if they did sue the newspaper, it would send out a signal that the media must check facts first. Newspapers have lots of money though, paying out wouldn't hurt them.
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« Reply #74 on: January 08, 2019, 07:04:22 PM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on January 08, 2019, 06:42:38 PM
And here we go again..

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46803713
Since the Gatwick drone remains a mystery imho that and this could be a hard Brexit drill.
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