There are no words...

[Nearly Sane]

Other than vaccinate!!!

If this is true, then the anti vac idiots have surpassed themselves.


https://wokesloth.com/anti-vaxxer-asks-for-measles-protection-advice/jessi/?fbclid=IwAR12lztb99TL-knhP0tu7llnYvme1Upz59_zo2zwmqdQTAUvxPlw-NaGlYU

[Gordon]

Words fail me: some of the comments hit the nail on the head.

[jeremyp]

If this is true,

Yes. There seems to be no link from the article to the original post. I am slightly more sceptical Than I would be otherwise.

However vaccinate!.

[Nearly Sane]

Yes. There seems to be no link from the article to the original post. I am slightly more sceptical Than I would be otherwise.

However vaccinate!.

Not just that but even if a link were to be provided, can't be shown that it's actually meant.

[Steve H]

Why did she get sarky comments from an anti=-vax group?

[Nearly Sane]

Why did she get sarky comments from an anti=-vax group?

I'm suggesting that her comment shows up her anti vac views.

[Steve H]

I'm suggesting that her comment shows up her anti vac views.

But ut was on ananti-vax group, who would surely agree with her!

[Nearly Sane]

But ut was on ananti-vax group, who would surely agree with her!

And the rest of the world saw it, which is why it became news.

[Sriram]

I don't know what vaccinations are given to children in the UK, but in India we had the small pox vac in the 1950's.  In the 1970's the Triple Antigen started. Smallpox was discontinued somewhere along the way (1980's) because it has been eradicated (I am always a little worried about that!).

Our children are currently given only Triple Antigen and Polio drops.  We don't vaccinate routinely against measles. In fact, doctors don't recommend it because it is ineffective. 
 

[Roses]

As I have mentioned before, when our middle daughter had our first grandchild 17 years ago, it was when the idea that MMR could cause autism was at its height. She decided not to have him vaccinated, he is the only one of our five grandchildren to have the condition, possibly inherited from my husband whom we are almost certain has Asperger's syndrome too. The lad has since been vaccinated as have the other children.

The anti-vax mob are doing a lot of damage by spreading their ill-informed garbage, measles can kill!   

[Stranger]

We don't vaccinate routinely against measles. In fact, doctors don't recommend it because it is ineffective.

"A report on the most recent large-scale UK measles outbreak in South Wales in 2012-2013 showed two doses of MMR vaccine to be over 99% effective in preventing measles. Fewer than 1 in 100 fully vaccinated children caught measles during the outbreak."

-- MMR Vaccine - Vaccine Knowledge Project - University of Oxford

[Udayana]

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Our children are currently given only Triple Antigen and Polio drops.  We don't vaccinate routinely against measles. In fact, doctors don't recommend it because it is ineffective.

There is a national drive in India for measles/rubella vaccination but is hampered by parent consent and trust issues.

[Enki]

For those of us who are old enough, anyone remember the measles parties? I actually went to one, and caught measles at a young age. I've also had whooping cough, chicken pox and mumps in my childhood. Two of the most dreaded diseases of that time(40s/early 50s) were diphtheria and polio. I well remember the polio outbreak in Hull in 1961, when everyone queued outside of schools etc. to receive the Salk vaccine on a sugar lump.

Thank goodness for the various vaccinations of today, which have saved millions of lives.

[Roses]

For those of us who are old enough, anyone remember the measles parties? I actually went to one, and caught measles at a young age. I've also had whooping cough, chicken pox and mumps in my childhood. Two of the most dreaded diseases of that time(40s/early 50s) were diphtheria and polio. I well remember the polio outbreak in Hull in 1961, when everyone queued outside of schools etc. to receive the Salk vaccine on a sugar lump.

Thank goodness for the various vaccinations of today, which have saved millions of lives.

Measles parties? I have never heard of them before. When I was a child vaccinations were compulsory in Guernsey, including smallpox vacs. I am not sure if that is still the case today.

[Sebastian Toe]

Our children are currently given only Triple Antigen and Polio drops.  We don't vaccinate routinely against measles. In fact, doctors don't recommend it because it is ineffective.

...and yet...

https://tinyurl.com/IndiaApprovesVaccines

 

[Udayana]

People’s Fears About Vaccines Aren’t Just About Vaccines

...
Let’s put this into more familiar language. Vaccine-hesitant parents frequently say they worry about putting something foreign into their children’s bodies, so young and pure. They talk about not wanting to put something unnatural into their pure children’s bodies. They worry that vaccines may contain “poisons” and “toxins” and “contaminants”, like thimerosal. That is the semantic expression of the purity/degradation moral value. The more deeply hesitant parents and outright vaccine refusers say these things too. But they also go further: They state that they don’t like the government or the medical community telling them what to do, which is a reflection of the liberty/oppression value, and that they don’t trust those institutions’ promises that vaccines are safe, which means that they aren’t motivated by the moral value of respect for authority (again, at least not on this issue).

Based on study: Association of moral values with vaccine hesitancy
The link in the report gives online access to the full text.
 

[Robbie]

I have heard of German Measles parties, not that I went to one but people liked girls to catch it because it's dangerous for pregnant women so best to get it out of the way. It's not a horrible, serious illness, doesn't last long. I remember having it but there's a vaccine for it now. I also had measles although I'd been vaccinated but it was mild, and whooping cough & chicken pox. I don't think there was a vaccination for chicken pox.

Sririam we vaccinate for smallpox, TB and polio and it's possible to be vaccinated against meningitis. People over sixty have an anti influenza jab if they want, also those working in certain professions who are at risk.

I don't know why you say the measles vaccine is ineffective, sririam. The disease has been virtually eradicated because of it and if a child does catch it, it's very mild indeed.

[Roses]

I have just seen this on the BBC News website.

Measles cases in Europe tripled between 2017 and 2018 to 82,596 - the highest number recorded this decade, data from the World Health Organization shows.

[Harrowby Hall]

I don't know why you say the measles vaccine is ineffective, sririam. The disease has been virtually eradicated because of it and if a child does catch it, it's very mild indeed.

Yes, Robbie, it's a very mild disease.   www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-46387167

[Nearly Sane]

Yes, Robbie, it's a very mild disease.   www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-46387167

I think Robbie was suggesting that in those few cases that children have been vaccinated catch measles that it is usually mild, rather than it is a mild disease itself

[Sriram]

I have heard of German Measles parties, not that I went to one but people liked girls to catch it because it's dangerous for pregnant women so best to get it out of the way. It's not a horrible, serious illness, doesn't last long. I remember having it but there's a vaccine for it now. I also had measles although I'd been vaccinated but it was mild, and whooping cough & chicken pox. I don't think there was a vaccination for chicken pox.

Sririam we vaccinate for smallpox, TB and polio and it's possible to be vaccinated against meningitis. People over sixty have an anti influenza jab if they want, also those working in certain professions who are at risk.

I don't know why you say the measles vaccine is ineffective, sririam. The disease has been virtually eradicated because of it and if a child does catch it, it's very mild indeed.

I didn't say that the vaccines were ineffective. That's what doctors said. Our children weren't given the vaccines. Fortunately they didn't catch the infection.

My children have had chickenpox which seems to be more common than measles for some reason.

[Udayana]

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Sririam we vaccinate for smallpox, TB and polio and it's possible to be vaccinated against meningitis. People over sixty have an anti influenza jab if they want, also those working in certain professions who are at risk.
...

This info is somewhat out of date. The current scheduled vaccinations and options for the UK are given here:
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/vaccinations/childhood-vaccines-timeline/

[Nearly Sane]

And more on the issues of the disaster of the anti vax nonsense


https://ideas.ted.com/why-we-must-get-vaccinated-to-protect-the-people-who-cant/?utm_campaign=social&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_content=ideas-blog&utm_term=science&fbclid=IwAR1gTDgfRwqxHZR31MtonFMMsx2izFyTZjN_gos7EWp8tGxcVBzNqLSWKzc

[jeremyp]

Does anybody here know anybody who has had tetanus? I'm willing to bet no and the reason being that the tetanus vaccine is very effective.

This is what tetanus looks like:

https://arstechnica.com/science/2019/03/boy-spent-47-agonizing-days-in-icu-with-tetanus-parents-still-refuse-vaccines/?comments=1