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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #250 on: August 26, 2020, 12:17:57 PM »
You do know it's a figure of speech, don't you?
Yes, I was just pointing out it doesn't really mean much as LR used it.

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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #251 on: August 26, 2020, 12:23:35 PM »
I don't know what can be more horrifying than a bloke with severe mental health problems, as seems to be the case with Trump, with nuclear weapons at his disposal! :o
They aren't 'at his disposal'. Nice to see you using your medical skills to diagnose Trump

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« Reply #252 on: August 26, 2020, 12:24:26 PM »
Yes, I was just pointing out it doesn't really mean much as LR used it.

Except it does.
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #253 on: August 26, 2020, 12:26:18 PM »
They aren't 'at his disposal'. Nice to see you using your medical skills to diagnose Trump

He is a psychopath. I think that qualifies as a mental health problem.
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #254 on: August 26, 2020, 12:27:08 PM »
Except it does.
So what does it mean in context? Especially since LR's reply seems to take it as not being a figure of speech.

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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #255 on: August 26, 2020, 12:32:36 PM »
They aren't 'at his disposal'. Nice to see you using your medical skills to diagnose Trump

Oh come on anyone with only half a working braincell can see Trump is psychiatrically challenged, even some members of his own family believe that to be true.
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #256 on: August 26, 2020, 12:32:53 PM »
He is a psychopath. I think that qualifies as a mental health problem.
Oh look, a random doctor on the internet  who has not examined Trump and who might be biased says he's a psychopath and you present that as a fact.




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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #257 on: August 26, 2020, 12:35:13 PM »
Oh come on anyone with only half a working braincell can see Trump is psychiatrically challenged, even some members of his own family believe that to be true.
So in order to make psychiatric diagnoses, you just need half a brain cell. I must tell my psychiatrist friends that they wasted their time doing all that studying.

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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #258 on: August 26, 2020, 12:39:49 PM »
Arguing over definitions.

It doesn't matter. He's a thoroughly nasty man who will clearly do almost anything to win the election, including voter suppression as Jeremyp points out. Add that to the multitude of dog whistles already sounded and I despair.

Why? Because what we should all have learnt by now is not that "Love Conquers All". It is Hate that fills that slot. Take a look around the world. Russia, Poland, Israel, Brazil and yes I would include England in that. Hate. Get used to it. Loads more to come.
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #259 on: August 26, 2020, 12:49:42 PM »
Arguing over definitions.

It doesn't matter. He's a thoroughly nasty man who will clearly do almost anything to win the election, including voter suppression as Jeremyp points out. Add that to the multitude of dog whistles already sounded and I despair.

Why? Because what we should all have learnt by now is not that "Love Conquers All". It is Hate that fills that slot. Take a look around the world. Russia, Poland, Israel, Brazil and yes I would include England in that. Hate. Get used to it. Loads more to come.
The problem though is the othering of all Trump's supporters as insane, or throwing out careless ideas of mental problems about Trump,  is not just about definitions but is just indulging in that hate. Not everyone who disagrees with me is a mad evil fascist.

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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #260 on: August 26, 2020, 01:02:27 PM »
The problem though is the othering of all Trump's supporters as insane, or throwing out careless ideas of mental problems about Trump,  is not just about definitions but is just indulging in that hate. Not everyone who disagrees with me is a mad evil fascist.

Oh yes I get that. And they aren't. I think I may have posted here before my partners cousin and her husband are generally lovely people, but they vote for Trump. I think whenever you are judging another country it is all too easy to make sweeping generalisations without knowing how that country operates on a fairly detailed level and understanding the nuances of the society that exists there.

I still think the hatred is going to win, though.
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #261 on: August 26, 2020, 01:07:06 PM »
I watched this and shuddered. I don't think this defines BLM.


https://news.yahoo.com/protesters-surround-woman-dc-restaurant-014323440.html

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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #262 on: August 26, 2020, 01:12:49 PM »

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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #263 on: August 26, 2020, 01:49:34 PM »
So what does it mean in context? Especially since LR's reply seems to take it as not being a figure of speech.

If you want to discuss the meaning of the idiom "worst nightmare", I would suggest you start a new thread instead of derailing this one.
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« Reply #264 on: August 26, 2020, 01:50:40 PM »
If you want to discuss the meaning of the idiom "worst nightmare", I would suggest you start a new thread instead of derailing this one.

Good idea.
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #265 on: August 26, 2020, 01:51:45 PM »
Oh look, a random doctor on the internet  who has not examined Trump and who might be biased says he's a psychopath and you present that as a fact.

The article goes into great detail explaining why it's not necessary to examine Trump in person, but you'd know that if you had bothered to read the article.

Suffice it to say it is a psychiatrist and being on the Internet does not make you a charlatan automatically.
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #266 on: August 26, 2020, 01:56:35 PM »
Stuff you couldn't make up Part 11538

https://news.yahoo.com/pam-bondi-blasts-joe-biden-020700685.html

It's all part of the pattern of projection.

You employ your daughter, son and son-in-law: accuse the there side of nepotism.

You are corrupt: accuse the other side of corruption.

You can't string a coherent sentence together: accuse the other side of dementia.
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #267 on: August 26, 2020, 02:09:23 PM »
The article goes into great detail explaining why it's not necessary to examine Trump in person, but you'd know that if you had bothered to read the article.

Suffice it to say it is a psychiatrist and being on the Internet does not make you a charlatan automatically.
I did read the article. I just don't trust it. That doesb't mean I'm saying he's automatically a charlatan - you just made that up.
 

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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #268 on: August 26, 2020, 02:10:35 PM »
If you want to discuss the meaning of the idiom "worst nightmare", I would suggest you start a new thread instead of derailing this one.
It's about a post on this thread. I note you didn't provide any answers to the question.

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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #269 on: August 26, 2020, 02:13:28 PM »
It's about a post on this thread. I note you didn't provide any answers to the question.

No, because that would be derailing the thread.
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #270 on: August 26, 2020, 02:14:19 PM »
It's about a post on this thread. I note you didn't provide any answers to the question.

You were just exercising your penchant for pedantry. ::)
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #271 on: August 26, 2020, 02:15:17 PM »
No, because that would be derailing the thread.
Explaining how I am wrong about my interpretation of a post in its use of a term as regards Trump is not a derail.

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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #272 on: August 26, 2020, 02:17:09 PM »
You were just exercising your penchant for pedantry. ::)
No. I want to know how jeremyp thinks you were using the term so that the post makes sense in terms of it being afigure of speech as regards Trump.

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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #273 on: August 26, 2020, 02:19:49 PM »
Getting back to the topic of the thread, I think most of us agree that Trump getting back in again would be a bad move for his country and the rest of the world.
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #274 on: August 26, 2020, 02:27:37 PM »
Getting back to the topic of the thread, I think most of us agree that Trump getting back in again would be a bad move for his country and the rest of the world.

Yes. I think the biggest issue is international relations with China. I think even with that though i would like to hear much more about what Biden would actually do.