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Re: US Election 2020
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #301 on: October 08, 2020, 01:57:04 PM »
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Trump refuses to take part in virtual debate

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2020-54465139

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Mr Trump said the move to virtual was to "protect" his rival. Mr Biden's campaign said he would participate.
Quoted for truth: Trump can't be trusted not to infect everybody present with COVID19
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #302 on: October 11, 2020, 11:06:14 AM »
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #303 on: October 11, 2020, 02:58:29 PM »
Some details on some of the other of the 1,214 candidates for President other than Biden and Trump

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2020-54334173
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #304 on: October 13, 2020, 06:46:03 PM »
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #305 on: October 26, 2020, 09:37:43 AM »
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #306 on: October 26, 2020, 10:21:59 AM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on October 13, 2020, 06:46:03 PM
Third world country voting


https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/elections/100000007390992/georgia-early-voting-lines-2020-election.html ;D

And third world publishing technology  by the New York Times - video inserts which took over a minute each to download ...

My understanding is that the long queues were the result of voting machines not being sufficiently robust to cope with use. I understand that the machines involved are mechanical rather than electronic. (Recollection of "hanging chads" in Florida resulting in Bush Jnr being "elected".) It is no wonder that many Americans prefer to vote by post.

I have never visited the USA but there are many incidents reported that lead me to suspect that despite appearances otherwise the USA is esentially a third world country.
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #307 on: October 26, 2020, 08:33:10 PM »
Trump was the first Republican to win the White House since 1928 without either Nixon or a member of the Bush family on the ticket
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #308 on: October 27, 2020, 07:07:15 AM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on October 13, 2020, 06:46:03 PM
Third world country voting


https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/elections/100000007390992/georgia-early-voting-lines-2020-election.html ;D


The term 'Third world' is today irrelevant since the cold war is over.  It can also be seen as derogatory. 'Developing nations' is a more appropriate term. 
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #309 on: October 27, 2020, 07:20:02 AM »
Quote from: Sriram on October 27, 2020, 07:07:15 AM

The term 'Third world' is today irrelevant since the cold war is over.  It can also be seen as derogatory. 'Developing nations' is a more appropriate term.
"Developing nation" is a euphemism. "Poor nation" or "under-developed nation" are more accurate.
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #310 on: October 27, 2020, 07:22:14 AM »
Quote from: Sriram on October 27, 2020, 07:07:15 AM

The term 'Third world' is today irrelevant since the cold war is over.  It can also be seen as derogatory. 'Developing nations' is a more appropriate term.


"Developing Nations" would seem to me to be just as derogatory as "Third World"; it still indicates that they are not on a par with the "Developed Nations"!
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #311 on: October 27, 2020, 07:23:36 AM »
Quote from: Beyoncé Castle on October 27, 2020, 07:20:02 AM
"Developing nation" is a euphemism. "Poor nation" or "under-developed nation" are more accurate.

If you want to be even more disparaging....then..yes.
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #312 on: October 27, 2020, 07:25:22 AM »
Quote from: Owlswing on October 27, 2020, 07:22:14 AM
"Developing Nations" would seem to me to be just as derogatory as "Third World"; it still indicates that they are not on a par with the "Developed Nations"!


The concept of a third world is not relevant because the 'first' and 'second' worlds (or blocs) don't exist any more.
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #313 on: October 27, 2020, 07:27:16 AM »
Quote from: Beyoncé Castle on October 27, 2020, 07:20:02 AM

"Developing nation" is a euphemism. "Poor nation" or "underdeveloped nation" are more accurate.


"Poor nations" or "Under-developed nations" are still derogatory, indicating a lower status!
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #314 on: October 27, 2020, 07:33:55 AM »
Quote from: Owlswing on October 27, 2020, 07:27:16 AM
"Poor nations" or "Under-developed nations" are still derogatory, indicating a lower status!


Yes indeed. And... there are no two discrete levels of development. It is a spectrum with nations falling into different levels of development.  Some nations could even be in a state of regressive 'development' or decline.

'Development' is not forever...



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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #315 on: October 27, 2020, 07:35:02 AM »
Quote from: Owlswing on October 27, 2020, 07:27:16 AM
"Poor nations" or "Under-developed nations" are still derogatory, indicating a lower status!
But more accurate. How do you describe a country with a low per capita GNP, and most of the people living in relative poverty, such as Burkina Faso, without being what you would call derogatory?
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #316 on: October 27, 2020, 07:42:11 AM »
Quote from: Beyoncé Castle on October 27, 2020, 07:35:02 AM

But more accurate. How do you describe a country with a low per capita GNP, and most of the people living in relative poverty, such as Burkina Faso, without being what you would call derogatory?


In the way of things today, you can't! Just as there is no way to describe non-whites that is not now considered derogatory.

And that includes 'non-whites'!
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #317 on: October 27, 2020, 08:13:23 AM »
I apologise for the unintended de-rail.
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #318 on: October 27, 2020, 08:30:04 AM »
Quote from: Harrowby Hall on October 27, 2020, 08:13:23 AM
I apologise for the unintended de-rail.

It is an interesting one though.

We generally talk about the developed world as if it is a "good thing".

And yet, it perpetuates gross inequality across the globe and has a huge responsibility for the relative inaction on the climate crisis. Add to that the support of hideous regimes based solely on the fact that they sit on vast reserves of oil and just how much of a "good thing" is the so-called developed world.
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #319 on: October 27, 2020, 09:58:42 AM »
Quote from: Harrowby Hall on October 27, 2020, 08:13:23 AM

I apologise for the unintended de-rail.


Let's face it, if you are talking about voting in the U S of A you are tip-toeing through a minefield of what is supposed to happen and what actually happens and what the papers say happened, what Trump says happened and what might happen as a result!

I wouldn't bet on any of the numerous/innumerable possibilities available!

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Re: US Election 2020
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #322 on: November 03, 2020, 09:36:13 PM »
Is anyone here going to stay up? I might. 
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #323 on: November 03, 2020, 09:47:16 PM »
Quote from: Robbie on November 03, 2020, 09:36:13 PM
Is anyone here going to stay up? I might.
Not really worth it given the time differences and the lack of clarity to be gained from exit polls given the early voting. Better to go to bed and get up early - 5am might be good and go from there.

I am not allowed to go to bed because my wife tells me everytime I do there is a bad result.
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #324 on: November 04, 2020, 12:31:37 AM »
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I am not allowed to go to bed because my wife tells me everytime I do there is a bad result.

...in the election or in bed?
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