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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #375 on: November 06, 2020, 01:50:11 PM »
I did think I'll wait and see how his presidency went and perhaps in spite of his eccentricities, in the politest way I can describe
 he may well in time be seen as successful at running finances of the US and at least he dealt well with the US economy.

After hearing his latest litigious outpourings, it sounds like there's not much hope for him, best write him off to history.

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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #377 on: November 06, 2020, 02:57:35 PM »
Stephen Colbert on Trump's speech


https://www.etonline.com/stephen-colbert-gets-visibly-emotional-over-president-trumps-speech-i-didnt-expect-this-to-break-my

This echoes a conversation I had with friends in Connecticut on Wednesday evening. They are totally shaken by what has happened to their country.

I don't think many of us here in cynical UK realise the extent to how it is drummed in to American citizens about their democracy being great and fair with excellent levels of checks and balances.

As Maryann, my fried said, Trump didn't so much drive a coach and horses through that sense they had of their democracy. Rather he blew it up with a nuclear bomb.
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« Reply #378 on: November 06, 2020, 03:15:06 PM »
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #379 on: November 06, 2020, 03:28:10 PM »


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« Reply #382 on: November 06, 2020, 10:42:56 PM »
Fuck me - they're STILL stuck on 264/214!
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #383 on: November 07, 2020, 02:19:41 AM »
Kanye West has now conceded

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« Reply #384 on: November 07, 2020, 08:37:37 AM »
Kanye West has now conceded
Big of him.
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« Reply #385 on: November 07, 2020, 09:39:57 AM »
He's leaving
Said he's going back
To a simpler place and time, oh yes, he is
I'll be with him
On that midnight train to Georgia
I'd rather live in his world
Than live without him in mine.

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Go on now, go, walk out the door
Just turn around now
'Cause you're not welcome anymore

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« Reply #386 on: November 07, 2020, 12:14:10 PM »
Big of him.
He's got more class than Trump.
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« Reply #387 on: November 07, 2020, 12:35:55 PM »
True - but this has always been a feature of the US system. Although a new president is elected in early November they never take office until January, the previous incumbent always remains president in that interim period.
Indeed. We have to remember that the USA is a big country and it has always taken a long time to gather and count all the ballots. In fact, according to Wikipedia, until 1937, they used to hold inauguration day in March. Don't forget that when the system was set up, the USA covered an area vastly larger than the UK and the fastest means of transport was a horse.

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And while I understand this seems mighty odd for Brits used to an election and a new PM the following day moving into 10 Downing St I can see some advantages of the US system. First it allows for a more measured and smooth transition phase (well it normally does, I'm not sure this is going to happen this time). But it also has some attractive features for the actual democratic process. In the UK if you need to vote by post you have to do that some days before election day as you vote cannot count if received later that the polls close, regardless of when you posted it. So it there is a major issue that emerges on the eve of a poll that won't be reflected in the postal vote. In the US (in many states, remember each state runs its own poll) as long as your postal ballot is post-marked on election day or before it will count (unless it takes crazy time to arrive), so even if you have a postal vote you can make your decision at the same time and with the same information as if you voted in person.
The British system was designed - or evolved - in a situation where the relationships between the parties has always been adversarial. The transition is designed to be short and sharp and has the advantage that the outgoing administration that has effectively been fired by the British people doesn't get to continue to govern even though they no longer have a mandate. I think that advantage outweighs the disadvantage that some people voting by post might regret their decision due to events that happen after they post their ballots.

This could never work in the USA because the top level of the civil service is filled with political appointments and they all need to be replaced. That takes time.
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« Reply #388 on: November 07, 2020, 04:36:03 PM »
Pennsylvania just been called for Biden.

He is now President elect.
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« Reply #389 on: November 07, 2020, 05:38:17 PM »
Pennsylvania just been called for Biden.

He is now President elect.

And Trump is the President Eject.
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« Reply #390 on: November 07, 2020, 05:49:49 PM »
Thank fuck for that - about bloody time too!
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« Reply #391 on: November 07, 2020, 06:15:19 PM »
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #392 on: November 07, 2020, 06:52:24 PM »
The best response to the news.

Well yes, except of course that this is the Mormon Tabernacle Choir.

Mormons overwhelmingly vote Republican.

What's that you say: Spoilsport   ;) ;).

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« Reply #393 on: November 07, 2020, 08:11:52 PM »


Mormons overwhelmingly vote Republican.

What's that you say: Spoilsport   ;) ;).
Don't you mean Morons?

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« Reply #394 on: November 07, 2020, 08:55:13 PM »
Excellent.
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« Reply #396 on: November 07, 2020, 10:51:32 PM »
This is a must read. Very funny. And why satire can no longer work.


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« Reply #397 on: November 07, 2020, 11:39:20 PM »

 Don't you mean Morons?


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« Reply #398 on: November 08, 2020, 12:30:50 PM »
So, will this be a Biden presidency or a Harris presidency? We will have to wait and see: as Biden is a moderate and Kamala is far left.

Something I found on-line in relation to Trump's claims of fraudulent voting:

The DHS is the agency tasked with the integrity of the US system of voting. This is from the CISA explaining the variety of measures, including watermarks as a state choice: https://www.cisa.gov/sites/default/files/publications/mail-in-voting-election-integrity-safeguards_508.pdf 
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« Reply #399 on: November 08, 2020, 12:42:11 PM »
So, will this be a Biden presidency or a Harris presidency? We will have to wait and see: as Biden is a moderate and Kamala is far left.

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Far left?

Anyway, Biden should start putting in place a team/structure to lead on the various Democrat policies ... and the party into the 2024/28 elections as required.
   
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