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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #450 on: January 04, 2021, 02:05:05 PM »
All 10 living former Secretaries of Defense sign letter saying the election is over

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/03/politics/trump-election-defense-secretaries-public-letter/index.html
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #451 on: January 04, 2021, 05:07:37 PM »
The article says that Trump Turnberry is closed under Tier 4 restrictions until 5th Feb but, as you say, since he's the owner that might not matter since he wouldn't be a commercial customer.

But he'd still have to obey Scottish lockdown rules which means not leaving his "house" except to be extradited for crimes against the US people.
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #452 on: January 04, 2021, 05:52:20 PM »
But he'd still have to obey Scottish lockdown rules which means not leaving his "house" except to be extradited for crimes against the US people.
Though he could still leave and fly to Russia if he had business there.

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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #453 on: January 04, 2021, 06:04:35 PM »
Though he could still leave and fly to Russia if he had business there.

Would you fly to the country that is being run by the gangster to whom you owe a lot of money you can't pay back?
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #454 on: January 05, 2021, 02:03:22 PM »
On the subject of rumours of Trump coming to Scotland on 19th January, the BBC live blog notes this.

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More from Scotland's first minister.

Commenting on reports that Donald Trump might come to Scotland within the next few weeks, she said non-essential travel was not allowed.

That rule applied to the president as much as anyone else, she added.

Sturgeon said she didn’t have any knowledge of his travel plans but she didn’t view playing golf as an essential reason to travel.

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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #455 on: January 05, 2021, 02:09:18 PM »
On the subject of rumours of Trump coming to Scotland on 19th January, the BBC live blog notes this.


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More from Scotland's first minister.

Commenting on reports that Donald Trump might come to Scotland within the next few weeks, she said non-essential travel was not allowed.

That rule applied to the president as much as anyone else, she added.

Sturgeon said she didn’t have any knowledge of his travel plans but she didn’t view playing golf as an essential reason to travel.



Which is all well and good but there is no stopping people at the airport - that being a reserved matter

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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #457 on: January 06, 2021, 11:20:48 AM »
It won't make it easy for Biden but it does change the view.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2020-55544056
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #458 on: January 06, 2021, 07:22:39 PM »
Looks like it is descending into chaos - from The Guardian's live blog.

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The US Capitol is now on lockdown, with no one allowed to go in or out, as Trump supporters clash with police outside the building.

Hundreds of protesters have attempted to breach the barricades around the Capitol, as lawmakers inside the building move toward certifying Joe Biden’s victory.

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It’s important to note that Donald Trump instructed his supporters to march to the Capitol when he addressed rally attendees in Washington this afternoon.

“We’re going to walk down Pennsylvania Ave -- I love Pennsylvania Avenue -- and we’re going to the Capitol,” the president said.

“We’re going to try and give our Republicans -- the weak ones because the strong ones don’t need any of our help -- we’re going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country,” Trump added. “So let’s walk down Pennsylvania Avenue.”


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The pro-Trump protesters have now breached the Capitol and are standing outside the Senate chamber as lawmakers debate a Republican objection to Arizona’s electoral votes.
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #459 on: January 06, 2021, 07:28:28 PM »
Looks like it is descending into chaos - from The Guardian's live blog.


and the latest
   



Proceedings at the Capitol suspended. Reports tthat protestors have breached thed the building.

"for, as long as but a hundred of us remain alive, never will we on any conditions be brought under English rule. It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself."

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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #460 on: January 06, 2021, 07:29:54 PM »
Quite frightening

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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #461 on: January 06, 2021, 07:32:13 PM »
It won't make it easy for Biden but it does change the view.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2020-55544056
If nothing else, it gives Biden the opportunity to get his appointees confirmed and Moscow Mitch will no longer be able t block legislation from coming before the Senate.
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #462 on: January 06, 2021, 07:32:35 PM »
Apparently Trump has tweeted condemnation of his own vice-president. Unprecedented doesn't cover it.
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #463 on: January 06, 2021, 07:34:20 PM »
Sounds seriously scary now -again from The Guardian's live blog. Trump sounds deranged (no surprise there).

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Trump said, “Mike Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution, giving States a chance to certify a corrected set of facts, not the fraudulent or inaccurate ones which they were asked to previously certify. USA demands the truth!”

According to reports, Pence was quickly moved out of the Senate chamber due to concerns about his safety after the Capitol was breached.

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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #464 on: January 06, 2021, 07:39:38 PM »
If nothing else, it gives Biden the opportunity to get his appointees confirmed and Moscow Mitch will no longer be able t block legislation from coming before the Senate.
It's a shame that the appointments to the Supremes fell so heavily in Trump's tenure though of course one of those was due to the Reps lack of integrity.

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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #465 on: January 06, 2021, 07:41:25 PM »
Curfew imposed - wonder if the certification will be able to continue.

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The mayor of DC, Muriel Bowser, has announced a citywide curfew from 6 pm tonight until 6 am tomorrow, after pro-Trump protesters breached the US Capitol.

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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #466 on: January 06, 2021, 07:54:34 PM »
Curfew imposed - wonder if the certification will be able to continue.
Armed stand off? Protestors inside the chamber? Shots fired? It won't be certified today.

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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #467 on: January 06, 2021, 08:17:26 PM »
Curfew imposed - wonder if the certification will be able to continue.
It's been suspended.

There are protestors inside the Senate. It's absolutely incredible.
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #468 on: January 06, 2021, 08:27:08 PM »
It's been suspended.

There are protestors inside the Senate. It's absolutely incredible.
Watching on the news, and there are continually sentences that I cannot believe I am hearing.

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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #469 on: January 06, 2021, 08:29:39 PM »
Again from the Guardian.

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The Washington Post is now reporting that the defense department has denied a request from DC officials to deploy the national guard to the US Capitol.

If true, presumably that is a political decision that Trump could overrule.

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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #470 on: January 06, 2021, 08:38:14 PM »
Again from the Guardian.

If true, presumably that is a political decision that Trump could overrule.

The Virginia National Guard are going in to DC according to the BBC.
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #471 on: January 06, 2021, 08:41:57 PM »
Again from the Guardian.

If true, presumably that is a political decision that Trump could overrule.
Kayleigh Maceneny has apparently tweeted that the National Guard is on the way, at Trump's order. Take that with a pinch of salt if you like, she's almost as prone to lying as Trump.
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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #472 on: January 06, 2021, 08:46:03 PM »
According to this, the governor of Virginia (a Democrat) is sending help.

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My team and I are working closely with @MayorBowser, @SpeakerPelosi, and @SenSchumer to respond to the situation in Washington, D.C.

Per the Mayor's request, I am sending members of the Virginia National Guard along with 200 Virginia State Troopers.

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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #473 on: January 06, 2021, 08:47:25 PM »
Kayleigh Maceneny has apparently tweeted that the National Guard is on the way, at Trump's order. Take that with a pinch of salt if you like, she's almost as prone to lying as Trump.
Unless he tells them, the protestors  to go,  then there will be violence. There are so many senior Republicans who have been complicit in this

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Re: US Election 2020
« Reply #474 on: January 06, 2021, 08:53:35 PM »
No Epiphany in Washington, just a bunch of epic fannies.