Poppying in for a quick one

[Nearly Sane]

Bit mad but good publicity

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/bristol-pub-you-wont-served-3511992.amp?fbclid=IwAR35Au0dvb9AGhqb4CamSaMWtxVW7SkGyTr039e_7PtjCKGweo4EKi0P0T8

[Roses]

Good for him. Remembrance Sunday is important to me too, having been born in an island which was invaded by the Germans, 13 of whom lived in our house. Not only have I bought my poppy of course, I am wearing poppy shaped earrings I have a cardboard poppy on the dashboard of my car, and a birdbath in the shape of a poppy.

[Nearly Sane]

Good for him. Remembrance Sunday is important to me too, having been born in an island which was invaded by the Germans, 13 of whom lived in our house. Not only have I bought my poppy of course, I am wearing poppy shaped earrings I have a cardboard poppy on the dashboard of my car, and a birdbath in the shape of a poppy.

So to remember the fight for freedom you want to restrict people's freedom.

[Roses]

So to remember the fight for freedom you want to restrict people's freedom.

People can use another pub, if they object can't they?

[Nearly Sane]

People can use another pub, if they object can't they?

Why should they? What if he refused to serve Jews?

[Roses]

Why should they? What if he refused to serve Jews?

Oh come on that isn't the in the same category at all. When I was young and the gun sounded for the 2 minute silence at 11am all cars were expected to stop, it was very bad form if they didn't. If the landlord of this pub specifically asks people who enter his premises on Remembrance Sunday to wear a poppy to honour the fallen, I don't see that as restricting anyone's freedom, they can find another pub if they don't wish to honour his request.

At the going down of the sun, and in the morning we shall remember them.

[Nearly Sane]

Oh come on that isn't the in the same category at all. When I was young and the gun sounded for the 2 minute silence at 11am all cars were expected to stop, it was very bad form if they didn't. If the landlord of this pub specifically asks people who enter his premises on Remembrance Sunday to wear a poppy to honour the fallen, I don't see that as restricting anyone's freedom, they can find another pub if they don't wish to honour his request.

At the going down of the sun, and in the morning we shall remember them.

You think it's ok for him to dictate how people should behave. So in principle there is no difference, you just want to impose your opinion of what is right both times.

[Roses]

You think it's ok for him to dictate how people should behave. So in principle there is no difference, you just want to impose your opinion of what is right both times.

In this instance I see nothing wrong in him imposing this rule on Remembrance Sunday, it isn't harming people in any way at all.

[Nearly Sane]

In this instance I see nothing wrong in him imposing this rule on Remembrance Sunday, it isn't harming people in any way at all.

Again you just think people should behave how you dictate.

[Gordon]

In this instance I see nothing wrong in him imposing this rule on Remembrance Sunday, it isn't harming people in any way at all.

Seeking to impose an arbitrary rule that is based on personal taste and tradition regarding something that is discretionary, and in doing so deny a service to those who prefer not to comply but continue to provide the same service to those who do comply, does seem discriminatory to me - and discrimination tends to be harmful.

Even if you are supportive of Remembrance Sunday and poppy-wearing this guy does seem OTT - mind you, as NS says, no doubt he'll attract a crowd on the day.

 

[Walter]

Why should they? What if he refused to serve Jews?

or even worse , pacifists ? 😱

[Nearly Sane]

or even worse , pacifists ? 😱

That's my worry. I don't like being refused drinks because of my ethics, and I will tut loudly if it happens.

[Walter]

That's my worry. I don't like being refused drinks because of my ethics, and I will tut loudly if it happens.

a Glasgae tut !
Terrifying 😮

[Steve H]

Well, fuck that pub, then. One thing I hate at this time of year is poppy-fascism. I've got a few white poppies somewhere, and will wear one, as well as a red one, on Sunday.

[Robbie]

I hate poppy fascism too and agree with wearing white and red. It's up to the individual whether or not they wear one, there's something seriously wrong with anybody who even notices ... words fail me.

We have poppies and a collection box at work near the entrance and waiting area, staff generally do buy but the poppy falls off or they change into another jacket with the poppy still on the previous one. Others put money in the tin but don't take the poppy because they 'always lose it'; it's a bit much to snoop around lapels on the coat rack. Sheesh.

Not a good piece of writing (too early -need more sleep), but hope I've adequately conveyed my feelings.

[jeremyp]

So to remember the fight for freedom you want to restrict people's freedom.

There are loads of pubs in Bristol. You can go somewhere else - as I will do throughout the year now that the landlord has done this (although, to be truthful, it's not one of the pubs I would normally frequent).

[Robbie]

Good jeremy, glad you won't darken the doors of that pub again (even tho' you're not a regular there).

This thread and the other ones are not about encouraging disrespect to the war dead, merely that no one should be pressurised into wearing a poppy.

I bought poppy last week and only wore it that day, forgot to transfer it to different clothes. I doubt anyone at worked noticed, I didn't take stock of who else was wearing or not wearing a poppy.