Author Topic: Aliens exist and could be here on Earth (Read 2247 times)

Roses · « **on:** January 06, 2020, 02:23:44 PM »

According to the British woman astronaut.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51003374

She might be right, I can think of one prominent guy across the pond who could well be an alien, LOL!

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #1 on:** January 06, 2020, 02:59:39 PM »

Quote from: Littleroses on January 06, 2020, 02:23:44 PM

According to the British woman astronaut.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51003374

She might be right, I can think of one prominent guy across the pond who could well be an alien, LOL!

That one seems all too human.

Roses · « **Reply #2 on:** January 06, 2020, 03:03:05 PM »

Quote from: Nearly Sane on January 06, 2020, 02:59:39 PM

That one seems all too human.

I think that comment is an insult to the human race, LOL!

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #3 on:** January 06, 2020, 03:11:19 PM »

Quote from: Littleroses on January 06, 2020, 03:03:05 PM

I think that comment is an insult to the human race, LOL!

You mean the race that carried out the holocaust? And are ruining the planet?

Roses · « **Reply #4 on:** January 06, 2020, 03:23:31 PM »

Quote from: Nearly Sane on January 06, 2020, 03:11:19 PM

You mean the race that carried out the holocaust? And are ruining the planet?

Maybe they were aliens too.

With Trump as US president a global holocaust could take place as he refuses to acknowledge global warming has anything to do with human activity.

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #5 on:** January 06, 2020, 03:33:47 PM »

Quote from: Littleroses on January 06, 2020, 03:23:31 PM

Maybe they were aliens too.

With Trump as US president a global holocaust could take place as he refuses to acknowledge global warming has anything to do with human activity.

And? It will be the human race who will bring it about. Btw you've just added the No True Scotsman fallacy to your list.

Roses · « **Reply #6 on:** January 06, 2020, 04:35:15 PM »

Quote from: Nearly Sane on January 06, 2020, 03:33:47 PM

And? It will be the human race who will bring it about. Btw you've just added the No True Scotsman fallacy to your list.

You poor dear, LOL!

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #7 on:** January 06, 2020, 04:44:57 PM »

Quote from: Littleroses on January 06, 2020, 04:35:15 PM

You poor dear, LOL!

Whoooooooossssssshhhhhh

Robbie · « **Reply #8 on:** January 06, 2020, 09:20:07 PM »

Dr Sharman could well be right but there isn't sufficient evidence to convince at the moment; the government could be keeping secrets about aliens, that's the stuff of science fiction and conspiracy theories.

Steve H · « **Reply #9 on:** January 06, 2020, 10:27:56 PM »

Quote from: Littleroses on January 06, 2020, 02:23:44 PM

According to the British woman astronaut.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51003374

She might be right, I can think of one prominent guy across the pond who could well be an alien, LOL!

I despise Trump as much as you, and so do many on this board, but we don't say so every other post. It's getting boring. Also, "LOL!" at the end of a sentence doesn't make it funny, if it wasn't already, and if it was, lol is unnecessary.

Aruntraveller · « **Reply #10 on:** January 06, 2020, 10:42:37 PM »

Quote from: Oliphant Chuckerbutty on January 06, 2020, 10:27:56 PM

I despise Trump as much as you, and so do many on this board, but we don't say so every other post. It's getting boring. Also, "LOL!" at the end of a sentence doesn't make it funny, if it wasn't already, and if it was, lol is unnecessary.

I think LR explained elsewhere that her use of a proxy means she can't post emoticons which is why there is a surfeit of lolling. Me, I'm heading back to the sofa.

Roses · « **Reply #11 on:** January 07, 2020, 08:31:01 AM »

Quote from: Oliphant Chuckerbutty on January 06, 2020, 10:27:56 PM

I despise Trump as much as you, and so do many on this board, but we don't say so every other post. It's getting boring. Also, "LOL!" at the end of a sentence doesn't make it funny, if it wasn't already, and if it was, lol is unnecessary.

Stevie boy, I realise you enjoy having a go at me at every opportunity, but as TV has pointed out my new proxy server doesn't permit me to use smileys.

I DESPISE TRUMP x 1000,000+++++++++ LOL! LOL! LOL!

Steve H · « **Reply #12 on:** January 07, 2020, 11:59:45 AM »

If you type a semi-colon followed by a D, you'll get the grinning smiley. It may not appear on your screen, but it will on other people's. Anyway, either a grinning smiley or a LOL after your own comment is unnecessary for the reason I gave, and rather tiresome. Use them to indicate that you appreciate someone else's joke, by all means, but that's different.

Roses · « **Reply #13 on:** January 07, 2020, 12:06:35 PM »

I think it highly likely there are intelligent lifeforms in other parts of the universe, but rather sceptical at the suggestion that some are amongst us on Earth.

Steve H · « **Reply #14 on:** January 07, 2020, 12:20:16 PM »

Quote from: Littleroses on January 07, 2020, 12:06:35 PM

I think it highly likely there are intelligent lifeforms in other parts of the universe, but rather sceptical at the suggestion that some are amongst us on Earth.

I agree, for once. If intelligent life exists elsewhere, it must be so far away that even if their spaceships could travel at close to the speed of light, it'd take them decades at least, and more likely centuries or millennia, to get here, since warp-drives and Tardises are pure fantasy. Even contacting them by radio would take years or centuries: if they were 50 light-years away, we'd have to wait 100 years for a reply to a message from us: and that assumes that they developed radio transmission technology more than 50 years ago. If they were thousands of light-years away, they'd've had to develop it thousands of years ago. We've only had it ourselves for a bit more than a century. Marconi's first radio trransmission of 1895 will just be reaching planets 125 light-years away: and that's no distance at all on the scale of the galaxy, let alone the universe.

Outrider · « **Reply #15 on:** January 07, 2020, 12:43:38 PM »

Quote from: Oliphant Chuckerbutty on January 07, 2020, 12:20:16 PM

I agree, for once. If intelligent life exists elsewhere, it must be so far away that even if their spaceships could travel at a close to the speed of light, it'd take them decades at least, and more likely centuries or millennia, to get here, since warp-drives and Tardises are pure fantasy. Even contacting them by radio would take years or centuries: if they were 50 light-years away, we'd have to wait 100 years for a reply to a message from us: and that assumes that they developed radio transmission technology more than 50 years ago. If they were thousands of light-years away, they'd've had to develop it thousands of years ago. We've only had it ourselves for a bit more than a century. Marconi's first radio trransmission of 1895 will just be reaching planets 125 light-years away: and that's no distance at all on the scale of the galaxy, let alone the universe.

We have no idea what technologies of the future will mean for space travel - we have had gravity forever, but only in the last decade have we begun to be able to demonstrate why, science continues to develop new understandings of our universe and we cannot definitively say when a breakthrough in understanding might arrive that makes space-time warping a reality. It's not on the immediate horizon, but we don't know that it never will be.

O.

Christine · « **Reply #16 on:** January 07, 2020, 12:47:42 PM »

As Robbie said, Dr Sharman could well be right, but as a scientist she should know better than to say “aliens exist, there’s no two ways about it”. It might be more likely than not that other lifeforms exist somewhere. It might be almost definite. But there’s definitely more than one way about it, unless she has evidence she's not sharing.

As to aliens being here, I wonder if she has a more developed view than what comes across to me as “anything is possible”? For instance, how they might have got here?

I took the suggestion that bad people are aliens as a joke and don't have a problem with people indicating they aren't serious by use of emojis or 'lol'. It's hard to signal in writing that you're not serious otherwise.

I sometimes hope to be beamed up and taken back to my civilised and peaceful home world, especially after exposure to a R4 Today vox pop, but sadly it's a fantasy.

Steve H · « **Reply #17 on:** January 07, 2020, 12:50:34 PM »

Quote from: Christine on January 07, 2020, 12:47:42 PM

I took the suggestion that bad people are aliens as a joke and don't have a problem with people indicating they aren't serious by use of emojis or 'lol'. It's hard to signal in writing that you're not serious otherwise.

I sometimes hope to be beamed up and taken back to my civilised and peaceful home world, especially after exposure to a R4 Today vox pop, but sadly it's a fantasy.

It should be obvious whether a comment is serious or not. I got the humour in your second quoted sentence.

Christine · « **Reply #18 on:** January 07, 2020, 12:52:50 PM »

Quote from: Outrider on January 07, 2020, 12:43:38 PM

We have no idea what technologies of the future will mean for space travel - we have had gravity forever, but only in the last decade have we begun to be able to demonstrate why, science continues to develop new understandings of our universe and we cannot definitively say when a breakthrough in understanding might arrive that makes space-time warping a reality. It's not on the immediate horizon, but we don't know that it never will be.

O.

An alien civilisation could be billions of years more technologically advanced than we are. Somebody (sorry, can't remember) suggested that any civilisation that became technologically advanced would inevitably wipe itself out before achieving inter-stellar space travel, but that says more, in my opinion, about the narrow-mindedness and hubris of humans than what aliens might be capable of.