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Burnsing issues
« on: January 22, 2020, 12:22:18 PM »
 I know the majority here may struggle with Burns, but I found this fascinating as I watched the BBC Scotland Channel last night. It'll be on iplayer, and repeated on Saturday night. It's agood exploration of the complex genious of the poet. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000dnsf?sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiN-Ia2mJfnAhWpRBUIHZiwA4oQFjAAegQIARAB
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Re: Burnsing issues.I kno the majority here may struggle with Burns, but I found thi
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2020, 02:12:43 PM »
Quote from: Anchorman on January 22, 2020, 12:22:18 PM
I know the majority here may struggle with Burns, but I found this fascinating as I watched the BBC Scotland Channel last night. It'll be on iplayer, and repeated on Saturday night. It's agood exploration of the complex genious of the poet. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000dnsf?sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiN-Ia2mJfnAhWpRBUIHZiwA4oQFjAAegQIARAB

I would have to take a course on whatever dialect his work is expressed in before I would be able to understand 95% of his work, I have fallen at the first fence of, what I assume's to be, the first sentence?

However I am essentially Pro-scot, oh yes but even so you can keep your bagpipes too.

Regards Anch, ippy.
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Re: Burnsing issues
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2020, 03:04:32 PM »
Quote from: ippy on January 22, 2020, 02:12:43 PM
I would have to take a course on whatever dialect his work is expressed in before I would be able to understand 95% of his work, I have fallen at the first fence of, what I assume's to be, the first sentence?

However I am essentially Pro-scot, oh yes but even so you can keep your bagpipes too.

Regards Anch, ippy.
   


Most of the programme is in English....including the sweary words Burns wrote in certain poems and letters....words I didn't excpect the Beeb ever to use, by the way!
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Re: Burnsing issues
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2020, 03:19:47 PM »
Jist for you, Ippy, here's Jamie Stuart, author of the wonderful 'A Glasgow Bible' performing Tam o Shanter (In Scots). Incidentally, 'Kirk Allowat' -well, the new chuerch, anyway, was where I used to attempt to fall asleep in Ayr Presbytery till we moved to another bit wjere the chairs are built for discomfort..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMLI9oof-PY&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi05qn3v5fnAhVuURUIHdSABzoQtwIwBXoECAMQAQ
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Re: Burnsing issues
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2020, 03:53:07 PM »
Quote from: Anchorman on January 22, 2020, 03:04:32 PM
   


Most of the programme is in English....including the sweary words Burns wrote in certain poems and letters....words I didn't excpect the Beeb ever to use, by the way!

I hadn't realised that I'll give the iPlayer a whirl on that, his words were genuinely undecipherable to me. 

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P S I listened to your link and apart from where do you look when a bloke wearing a kilt sits in front of you, you might think nice legs if it was a woman, the supposed dialogue reminded me of the, mostly Black, American scat singers where the scat was a little more understandable than your link.
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Re: Burnsing issues
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2020, 01:13:22 PM »
Quote from: Anchorman on January 22, 2020, 03:04:32 PM
   


Most of the programme is in English....including the sweary words Burns wrote in certain poems and letters....words I didn't excpect the Beeb ever to use, by the way!
What, like "Gin a body fuck a body, cunt's a boday's ain", you mean? I was shocked - shocked, I tell you - to come across that in the unexpurgated version of "Comin' through the rye" many years ago.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03zrr4g
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Re: Burnsing issues
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2020, 03:03:27 PM »
Quote from: Oliphant Chuckerbutty on January 24, 2020, 01:13:22 PM
What, like "Gin a body fuck a body, cunt's a boday's ain", you mean? I was shocked - shocked, I tell you - to come across that in the unexpurgated version of "Comin' through the rye" many years ago.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03zrr4g
   


Nope.
The 'F' eord's pretty tame.
Burns, apart from his 'official' works, contributed and wrote most of "The merrie muses of Caledonia".
There's a nice, rather jolly, love song - 'Green grow the rashes" in the official poems and songs.
There is, however, this.....
https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Merry_Muses_of_Caledonia/Green_Grow_the_Rashes?sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi-56K8v5znAhXuQhUIHSpbAZMQFjAAegQIARAB
and others of that ilk.
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