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Roses

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Re: Gay marriage
« Reply #75 on: June 06, 2020, 02:15:47 PM »
Gay MARRIAGE.... is there such a thing?

There is no accusation of homophobic required if we learn to define the word marriage for Gay and heterosexual,

We forget that atheist believe in marriage but they do not believe that God is included anywhere.

Marriage then is defined three ways.  The believer it is ordained by God so  MAN and a WOMAN become one flesh.

Atheist  in their eyes are just man and wife.

Gay couples wife and wife or husband and husband, 

All have a different concept. The latter two had no religious definitive. So whilst the co-equally exist in law, they do not co-equally exist in the eyes of God as marriage.

It is quite easy really and nothing to do with homophobia or atheism. Just logically thought out regarding each group/

The Biblical god character more than likely doesn't exist, so its human concocted thoughts are irrelevant.
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Re: Gay marriage
« Reply #76 on: June 06, 2020, 02:17:42 PM »
The Biblical god character more than likely doesn't exist, so its human concocted thoughts are irrelevant.

If, you actually believed what you preach then you would not be posting on a religion and ethics forum, would you?

At least know why you believe what you preach and make sure your life reflects it. Seems it is just about argument for you. No real belief one way or another, that you actually practice.
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Re: Gay marriage
« Reply #77 on: June 06, 2020, 02:21:02 PM »
If, you actually believed what you preach then you would not be posting on a religion and ethics forum, would you?

At least know why you believe what you preach and make sure your life reflects it. Seems it is just about argument for you. No real belief one way or another, that you actually practice.

I have a perfect right to post on any forum. Challenging people like you, whose take on religion is not very pleasant is a plus!
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Re: Gay marriage
« Reply #78 on: June 06, 2020, 02:31:28 PM »
I have a perfect right to post on any forum. Challenging people like you, whose take on religion is not very pleasant is a plus!

Your right to post was never the issue. It is you, who does not show you have any real belief in what you believe or preach.
You cannot challenge people or make false accusations that my beliefs are not pleasant. My beliefs show that there is no comparison with atheism or worldly takes on marriage and other
subjects not in the guidelines with Christ and love thy neighbour.   Christianity is not about condemning the world but about saving it.  Not everyone wants to be saved but you cannot blame religion
only humans like yourself, if you do not believe in God.
Your excuses are just dinosaurs of a past era where they are truly extinct.  Even atheist with any cred see these things and some do try and help you but you never listen and never see.
Till you do it is like a record repeating itself and people tend to overlook your posts after a while. Sad, but true. You could make  a difference if you could argue from a more modern stance on religion.
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Re: Gay marriage
« Reply #79 on: June 06, 2020, 02:48:33 PM »
Your right to post was never the issue. It is you, who does not show you have any real belief in what you believe or preach.
You cannot challenge people or make false accusations that my beliefs are not pleasant. My beliefs show that there is no comparison with atheism or worldly takes on marriage and other
subjects not in the guidelines with Christ and love thy neighbour.   Christianity is not about condemning the world but about saving it.  Not everyone wants to be saved but you cannot blame religion
only humans like yourself, if you do not believe in God.
Your excuses are just dinosaurs of a past era where they are truly extinct.  Even atheist with any cred see these things and some do try and help you but you never listen and never see.
Till you do it is like a record repeating itself and people tend to overlook your posts after a while. Sad, but true. You could make  a difference if you could argue from a more modern stance on religion.

You are talking about yourself again! ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Gay marriage
« Reply #80 on: June 06, 2020, 03:26:52 PM »
You are talking about yourself again! ;D ;D ;D

So sad you show us all that I am right about you.
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Re: Gay marriage
« Reply #81 on: June 08, 2020, 08:26:07 AM »
Gay MARRIAGE.... is there such a thing?

Yes.

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There is no accusation of homophobic required if we learn to define the word marriage for Gay and heterosexual,

What?

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We forget that atheist believe in marriage but they do not believe that God is included anywhere.

Which we is this?

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Marriage then is defined three ways.  The believer it is ordained by God so  MAN and a WOMAN become one flesh. Atheist  in their eyes are just man and wife. Gay couples wife and wife or husband and husband.

Marriage is defined any number of ways, of which these are probably three of the more common.  There are thruples (and probably more) who consider themselves married, for instance. Marriage then, is an ill-defined general concept which has been subject to any number of cultural revisions and alteration as it spread from multiple origin points, merged into some degree of a shared world-wide concept and then is reinterpreted into each culture (and sub-culture) time and again.

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All have a different concept. The latter two had no religious definitive. So whilst the co-equally exist in law, they do not co-equally exist in the eyes of God as marriage.

Which is only an issue if you believe.

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It is quite easy really and nothing to do with homophobia or atheism. Just logically thought out regarding each group/

Believing what you want about marriage isn't homophobia.  Suggesting that gay people's marriages should be treated as something 'lesser' is.  Suggesting that gay people shouldn't have access to the social institutions that straight people can access is.

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Roses

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Re: Gay marriage
« Reply #82 on: June 08, 2020, 11:12:51 AM »

Believing what you want about marriage isn't homophobia.  Suggesting that gay people's marriages should be treated as something 'lesser' is.  Suggesting that gay people shouldn't have access to the social institutions that straight people can access is.

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I agree with you.
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