Euthanasia and assisted suicide.

[ippy]

I'm firmly with the 80%, but that is a dodgy argument. Being popular doesn't make something right.

 

Largely I would agree with what you say about percentages B C, but I really don't think that applies in this particular case, assisted dying isn't being imposed by this much needed legislation it just needs to be a matter of an individual choice we should all be able all be able to make.

ippy.

P S Don't take any notice of Vlad, as usual he has no idea he just wants to be herd.

[Nearly Sane]

 

Largely I would agree with what you say about percentages B C, but I really don't think that applies in this particular case, assisted dying isn't being imposed by this much needed legislation it just needs to be a matter of an individual choice we should all be able all be able to make.

ippy.

P S Don't take any notice of Vlad, as usual he has no idea he just wants to be herd.

Doesn't matter. Right is not an argument established by numbers. It's just you using the argumentum ad populum fallacy

[jeremyp]

Good point but having a trial prior to the event is legally unprecedented.

That's why I put "trial" in quotes. What I meant is that, if somebody proposes to commit suicide with assistance, there needs to be some sort of hearing in a legal setting before the suicide goes ahead to certify that it is all above board e.g. the suicide is the decision of the person who wants to die and not anybody else and that the proposed assistant is not being coerced into it either.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

That's why I put "trial" in quotes. What I meant is that, if somebody proposes to commit suicide with assistance, there needs to be some sort of hearing in a legal setting before the suicide goes ahead to certify that it is all above board e.g. the suicide is the decision of the person who wants to die and not anybody else and that the proposed assistant is not being coerced into it either.

That remains a good point.

[ippy]

That's why I put "trial" in quotes. What I meant is that, if somebody proposes to commit suicide with assistance, there needs to be some sort of hearing in a legal setting before the suicide goes ahead to certify that it is all above board e.g. the suicide is the decision of the person who wants to die and not anybody else and that the proposed assistant is not being coerced into it either.

The N Z example looks pretty reasonable to me. 

Assisted dying is available in the UK already, if you've enough money, it shouldn't be exclusive.

ippy. 

[Outrider]

More like Bakers who dont bake cakes with certain things on them.

Who won their case, as I recall.

O.

[Harrowby Hall]

 
Assisted dying is available in the UK already,

 

Indeed. It was around in 1936 when King George V was hastened to eternity by his physician, Lord Dawson, who spared him the gross indignity of having his death reported in the evening papers.

[ippy]

Indeed. It was around in 1936 when King George V was hastened to eternity by his physician, Lord Dawson, who spared him the gross indignity of having his death reported in the evening papers.

H H, Is there supposed some sort of hidden meaning in this post of yours, I was able to understand the words in your post but for me it has no/zero connection with the OP of this thread?

I'm sure that there will always be questionable deeds done by all sorts of people something that hasn't altered from right back into ancient times.

I'm guessing that are you suggesting we shouldn't try to improve our lives and  introduce a little more humanity into our laws, because, amazingly, there's sill a few naughty people about that don't obey the rules? 

ippy.

[Aruntraveller]

H H, Is there supposed some sort of hidden meaning in this post of yours, I was able to understand the words in your post but for me it has no/zero connection with the OP of this thread?

I'm sure that there will always be questionable deeds done by all sorts of people something that hasn't altered from right back into ancient times.

I'm guessing that are you suggesting we shouldn't try to improve our lives and  introduce a little more humanity into our laws, because, amazingly, there's sill a few naughty people about that don't obey the rules? 

ippy.

I think it is more to do with the perception that evening papers were vulgar and the Kings death deserved to be in the proper press in the morning.

Dawson(the Kings physician) wrote that he acted to preserve the King's dignity, to prevent further strain on the family, and so that the King's death at 11:55 p.m. could be announced in the morning edition of The Times newspaper rather than "less appropriate ... evening journals". Wiki - but widely known.

[ippy]

I think it is more to do with the perception that evening papers were vulgar and the Kings death deserved to be in the proper press in the morning.

Dawson(the Kings physician) wrote that he acted to preserve the King's dignity, to prevent further strain on the family, and so that the King's death at 11:55 p.m. could be announced in the morning edition of The Times newspaper rather than "less appropriate ... evening journals". Wiki - but widely known.

Yea Trent, could be, it might have been about the price of fish?

ippy.

[Harrowby Hall]

H H, Is there supposed some sort of hidden meaning in this post of yours, I was able to understand the words in your post but for me it has no/zero connection with the OP of this thread?

The king's doctor was practising euthanasia. I was providing you with a well-known instance of (to use your words) assisted dying.

I know that you have problems with aspects of written language. I ws trying to be ironic  Read Trent's reply again and see if you can find some indication of social values at the time.