The myth of the temporarily Embarrased Millionaire.

[jeremyp]

I think you are underplaying the pervasiveness of Celebrity culture I.e. people wanting to be Posh and Becks or at least enjoy a bit of the Champagne lifestyle.

Nobody on either side promised anybody they could be Posh and Becks. In fact, more than one Brexiteer told me that they thought there would be some economic hardship but that it would be worth it to get sovereignty back.

Now apparently according to you and Nearly Sane people are prepared to eat shit instead. Really?

"Eat shit" is your hyperbole, not mine. People have shitty jobs, but, as a rule, they'd rather have a shitty job than no job at all. The triumph of the Right is that they have successfully hoodwinked people into thinking that these are the only two alternatives.

[jeremyp]

The Empire was a huge blot on the UK's history!

That's irrelevant to the current topic.

Without workers from other countries, we would be up the creek without a paddle, especially the NHS, which relies on them as there are not enough British trained doctors and nurses.

Without the empire we wouldn't have these workers from other countries coming here - well, not as many. But that is also irrelevant to the current topic.

[Nearly Sane]

None of the older voters of my acquaintance voted for Brexit, they wouldn't be that daft.

But % wise more older people voted for it.

[Roses]

That's irrelevant to the current topic.
Without the empire we wouldn't have these workers from other countries coming here - well, not as many. But that is also irrelevant to the current topic.

NS mentioned the Empire in one his posts to which I was responding.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Nobody on either side promised anybody they could be Posh and Becks. In fact, more than one Brexiteer told me that they thought there would be some economic hardship but that it would be worth it to get sovereignty back.

Remain offered the status quo. Brexit offered a better life.
Now if in the Dutch auction that was what we can expect from Brexit all you can offer is ‘some economic hardship’ who is going to buy that? Answer people who don’t think it will be them or people that see themselves as Temporarily Embarrassed or potential rich people. The alternative, realistic view is to say “oh shit I’ve been conned something rotten and furious” and who is going to say that. No.....Brexit might cause some temporary embarrassment.

TEM is a powerful delusion inveigled into the English psyche in countless meetings, advert, reality show, party political broadcast, LBC phone in, tv show and copy of certain red top. It not only gets you to vote against your own self interest it allows you to spurn and hate those wanting to help out.
Because they don’t share your big delusion.

"Eat shit" is your hyperbole, not mine.

Let’s see what’s on the shelves the day after the transition period.

[Nearly Sane]

Remain offered the status quo. Brexit offered a better life.
Now if in the Dutch auction that was what we can expect from Brexit all you can offer is ‘some economic hardship’ who is going to buy that? Answer people who don’t think it will be them or people that see themselves as Temporarily Embarrassed or potential rich people. The alternative, realistic view is to say “oh shit I’ve been conned something rotten and furious” and who is going to say that. No.....Brexit might cause some temporary embarrassment.

TEM is a powerful delusion inveigled into the English psyche in countless meetings, advert, reality show, party political broadcast, LBC phone in, tv show and copy of certain red top. It not only gets you to vote against your own self interest it allows you to spurn and hate those wanting to help out.
Because they don’t share your big delusion.Let’s see what’s on the shelves the day after the transition period.

Brexit offered fear of Turkey, fear of rivers of immigrants, fear of rape gangs. The only big bonus was the fiction of the 350m a week for the NHS - a notably non TEM interest.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Didn’t the writer John Sullivan encapsulate the British spirit when he wrote “ Next year Rodney, we’ll all be millionaires.

And isn’t the Murdoch strategy not one of making the British working class think like the American working class?