Islamist terror attacks

[The Accountant, OBE, KC]

Multiple gun attack in Vienna. My thoughts are with the poor victims.

One gunman shot dead and there is a manhunt for another gunman.  it must be nerve-wracking for the people in Vienna. The authorities have searched the home of the gunman shot dead and found material that shows links with Daesh ideology.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-54788613

The Czech government say they are doing random checks at the border with Austria in case the gunman tries to escape that way.

Not sure what can be done about these attacks. It seems likely that more attacks will occur in other cities. Not sure how intrusive intelligence surveillance needs to become and whether they have the resources to work through any information in sufficient time to to try to prevent these attacks happening.

[Nearly Sane]

Yes, it seems impossible given that such actions take little or no real preparation. And agree I feel for the victims and their friends and family.

[Owlswing]

Yes, it seems impossible given that such actions take little or no real preparation. And agree I feel for the victims and their friends and family.

The perpetrators of these killings care for no-one except Allah!

For this reason, that when they kill for Allah and are then killed they get their 75 or whatever number it is, virgins in Paradise!

[The Accountant, OBE, KC]

The perpetrators of these killings care for no-one except Allah!

For this reason, that when they kill for Allah and are then killed they get their 75 or whatever number it is, virgins in Paradise!

Do you have any evidence to support your theory? Any links to interviews with terrorists who said they committed acts of terrorism in the belief that if they get killed while killing for Allah they would get whatever number of virgins in Paradise?

People believe all kinds of things so anything is possible. So it's possible the terrorists could have been fed a line like that - or indoctrinated to believe that they would be martyrs in the same way that soldiers who are trained and ordered to kill are indoctrinated to believe that they are patriots and heroes, doing their duty by serving and protecting their country for which their country will be forever grateful and will honour them if they die a hero's death.

Or it's possible the motivation of the terrorists is political, according to this 2008 survey carried out by the Gallup Center for Muslim Studies.

http://www.twocircles.net/2008feb26/politics_not_piety_dictate_radicals_muslim_world_poll.html

One of the largest-ever opinion polls conducted in the Islamic world found that seven percent of Muslims condoned the Sep 11, 2001, attacks on the US, but none of them gave religious justification for their beliefs, according to the figures released Tuesday.

The Gallup organisation’s poll of some 50,000 people in over 35 predominantly Muslim countries found that what motivated those considered “politically radicalised” was their fear of occupation by the West and the US, though most even admired and hoped for democratic principles.

 

[The Accountant, OBE, KC]

Yes, it seems impossible given that such actions take little or no real preparation. And agree I feel for the victims and their friends and family.

Seems like the authorities had had their eye on the terrorist they shot. But the legal system meant he was released from prison because of his youth.

Interior Minister Karl Nehammer described the dead gunman as an "Islamist terrorist", jailed for 22 months in April 2019 after trying to get to war-torn Syria to join Islamic State (IS) jihadists. The 20-year-old had been released early last December under more lenient terms for young adults.

The British police have said in the past that it is impossible to track all the British people they suspect of being Daesh sympathisers or who have returned from fighting with Daesh in Iraq and Syria.

[Nearly Sane]

Do you have any evidence to support your theory? Any links to interviews with terrorists who said they committed acts of terrorism in the belief that if they get killed while killing for Allah they would get whatever number of virgins in Paradise?

People believe all kinds of things so anything is possible. So it's possible the terrorists could have been fed a line like that - or indoctrinated to believe that they would be martyrs in the same way that soldiers who are trained and ordered to kill are indoctrinated to believe that they are patriots and heroes, doing their duty by serving and protecting their country for which their country will be forever grateful and will honour them if they die a hero's death.

Or it's possible the motivation of the terrorists is political, according to this 2008 survey carried out by the Gallup Center for Muslim Studies.

http://www.twocircles.net/2008feb26/politics_not_piety_dictate_radicals_muslim_world_poll.html
 

There often seems a naiveté in peoples views that thinks that terrorism like this is simply related to a single cause. And indeed, that somehow religion is some outside cause thar of you magically removed it would remove terrorism.

[The Accountant, OBE, KC]

https://nypost.com/2020/11/03/mma-fighters-risked-their-lives-to-rescue-vienna-attack-victims/ 

Turkish MMA fighters helped victims in Vienna shooting, including a policeman.

Some news that will hopefully undermine Daesh's stated intention in 2015 to eliminate coexistence between religious groups by carrying out terrorist attacks in the West:

The attack had “further [brought] division to the world,” the group said, boasting that it had polarized society and “eliminated the grayzone,” representing coexistence between religious groups. As a result, it said, Muslims living in the West would soon no longer be welcome in their own societies. Treated with increasing suspicion, distrust and hostility by their fellow citizens as a result of the deadly shooting, Western Muslims would soon be forced to “either apostatize … or they [migrate] to the Islamic State, and thereby escape persecution from the crusader governments and citizens,”

https://www.newstatesman.com/world/europe/2016/07/rushing-link-attacks-nice-wider-network-islamic-extremism-only-helps-terrorists