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Re: Injured Patterdale mountain rescuer appeal raises £500,000
« Reply #25 on: February 20, 2021, 08:25:02 AM »
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This is going round in circles, so I think I'll leave the thread for now. That does not mean you've won: you are wrong, but are being wilfully thick.
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Re: Injured Patterdale mountain rescuer appeal raises £500,000
« Reply #26 on: February 20, 2021, 08:26:18 AM »
Quote from: Lord Tantamount Horseposture on February 20, 2021, 08:25:02 AM
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This is going round in circles, so I think I'll leave the thread for now. That does not mean you've won: you are wrong, but are being wilfully thick.
Yawn!!!!
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Re: Injured Patterdale mountain rescuer appeal raises £500,000
« Reply #27 on: February 20, 2021, 08:26:43 AM »
Quote from: Lord Tantamount Horseposture on February 20, 2021, 08:17:47 AM
And if I hadn't been cycling from Litchborough to Northampton in March 2014, I wouldn't have been knocked off my bike and spent nine weeks in hospital, costing the NHS many thousands of pounds. Should I be fined as well?

No, because you weren't under lockdown at the time. If it had happened under lockdown and if I had any say in the matter then you would have been paying those thousands of pounds back.

Yes, had this happened during "normal" times the very same thing could have happened, and it would have been very sad. In this instance their illegal action caused this to happen.

It's too late now, but if the government had been more heavy handed in terms of punishment options available for breaking lockdown rules we would have had far fewer transgressions.

Illegal raves? Lock the whole lot up for three months and see how many raves there are.

Weddings held in school premises? Lock them up see if it happen again.

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Re: Injured Patterdale mountain rescuer appeal raises £500,000
« Reply #28 on: February 20, 2021, 08:27:10 AM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on February 20, 2021, 08:26:18 AM
Yawn!!!!
What a very little and rosy response.
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Re: Injured Patterdale mountain rescuer appeal raises £500,000
« Reply #29 on: February 20, 2021, 08:31:23 AM »
Quote from: Lord Tantamount Horseposture on February 20, 2021, 08:27:10 AM
What a very little and rosy response.
  For you, that's nearly witty. So tell me, if the eejits hadn't broken the law in the way they did, how would anyone have ended up in a wheelchair for life?
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Re: Injured Patterdale mountain rescuer appeal raises £500,000
« Reply #30 on: February 20, 2021, 08:38:03 AM »
"That was the cause, but yet per accidens" - Marlowe, 'Dr Faustus'.
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Re: Injured Patterdale mountain rescuer appeal raises £500,000
« Reply #31 on: February 20, 2021, 08:41:51 AM »
Quote from: Lord Tantamount Horseposture on February 20, 2021, 08:38:03 AM
"That was the cause, but yet per accidens" - Marlowe, 'Dr Fuastus'.
Faustus, I would suggest as spelling. Nice to see you have accepted that they caused someone being in a wheelchair for life by their idiocy.
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Re: Injured Patterdale mountain rescuer appeal raises £500,000
« Reply #32 on: February 20, 2021, 09:46:27 AM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on February 19, 2021, 11:08:15 PM
And in rescuing them breaking the law some poor volunteer is screwed for the rest of their life but you think that is worth mocking people on
   

Not only that, NS.
Let's not forget that these volunteers - many of whom spend what spare time they have when they're not training - raising money to keep the teams going.
On top of that, by going to such situations, they risk potentially catching the virus whilst saving lives.
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Re: Injured Patterdale mountain rescuer appeal raises £500,000
« Reply #33 on: February 20, 2021, 10:57:35 AM »
Quote from: Lord Tantamount Horseposture on February 20, 2021, 08:12:21 AM
So you disapprove of climbing and camping in all circumstances, because accidents might happen?
That's just really silly.

And subsequent posts add to your unpleasant attitude to the situation, in my opinion.
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Re: Injured Patterdale mountain rescuer appeal raises £500,000
« Reply #34 on: February 20, 2021, 11:15:50 AM »
Quote from: Lord Tantamount Horseposture on February 20, 2021, 08:25:02 AM
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This is going round in circles, so I think I'll leave the thread for now. That does not mean you've won: you are wrong, but are being wilfully thick.

It is you who is being wilfully thick, or in your cups, if you don't understand the silliness of the statements you have made on this topic. ::)
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Re: Injured Patterdale mountain rescuer appeal raises £500,000
« Reply #35 on: February 20, 2021, 11:21:39 AM »
You're all mad, and I don't think it's my attitude that's unpleasant, SD. Anyway, I now really am off this thread.
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Re: Injured Patterdale mountain rescuer appeal raises £500,000
« Reply #36 on: February 20, 2021, 11:29:24 AM »
Quote from: Lord Tantamount Horseposture on February 20, 2021, 11:21:39 AM
You're all mad, and I don't think it's my attitude that's unpleasant, SD. Anyway, I now really am off this thread.

BYE BYE!
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Re: Injured Patterdale mountain rescuer appeal raises £500,000
« Reply #37 on: February 20, 2021, 04:53:23 PM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on February 20, 2021, 05:27:11 AM
Eh? The idiots who were there and got into trouble exactly created the situation of the accident. If they had not stupidly been there it wouldn't have happened.

But the accident was not caused by them.
That is the point
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Re: Injured Patterdale mountain rescuer appeal raises £500,000
« Reply #38 on: February 20, 2021, 04:56:45 PM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on February 20, 2021, 08:22:51 AM
If they hadn't broken the law as they did the incident would not have happened.

It could have happened on a training day at any time.

The accident was caused by the rescuers
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Re: Injured Patterdale mountain rescuer appeal raises £500,000
« Reply #39 on: February 20, 2021, 05:01:25 PM »
Quote from: Lord Tantamount Horseposture on February 20, 2021, 11:21:39 AM
You're all mad, and I don't think it's my attitude that's unpleasant, SD. Anyway, I now really am off this thread.

I agree with your take on this.
This does not mean that I do not have tremendous admiration for the dedication of the rescuers or deep sorrow that the accident happened.

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Re: Injured Patterdale mountain rescuer appeal raises £500,000
« Reply #40 on: February 20, 2021, 05:21:28 PM »
Quote from: BeRational on February 20, 2021, 05:01:25 PM
I agree with your take on this.
This does not mean that I do not have tremendous admiration for the dedication of the rescuers or deep sorrow that the accident happened.
Agreed.
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