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The leaning pub of Dudley
« on: August 05, 2023, 10:29:06 AM »
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Re: The leaning pub of Dudley
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2023, 10:34:08 AM »
Typical of this country. We know the price of everything and the value of nothing. (Dear Oscar, Slightly misquoted)
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Re: The leaning pub of Dudley
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2023, 06:54:20 PM »
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Re: The leaning pub of Dudley
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2023, 07:57:19 PM »
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Re: The leaning pub of Dudley
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2023, 04:28:01 PM »
On 'Nationwide' in 1974, when it was called 'The Glynne Arms'.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av-embeds/66426703/vpid/p0g589d6
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Re: The leaning pub of Dudley
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2023, 06:39:03 AM »
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Re: The leaning pub of Dudley
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2023, 03:10:12 PM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on August 08, 2023, 06:39:03 AM
And it's gone

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-66434719

I hope the fire investigators had enough time to determine the cause. My money is on the current owner being responsible.
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Re: The leaning pub of Dudley
« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2023, 04:15:59 PM »
Quote from: jeremyp on August 08, 2023, 03:10:12 PM
I hope the fire investigators had enough time to determine the cause. My money is on the current owner being responsible.
indeed

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Re: The leaning pub of Dudley
« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2023, 09:21:33 PM »
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Re: The leaning pub of Dudley
« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2023, 08:28:17 PM »
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Re: The leaning pub of Dudley
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2023, 06:17:23 PM »
From that there Facebook:
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Re: The leaning pub of Dudley
« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2023, 07:11:50 PM »
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Re: The leaning pub of Dudley
« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2023, 07:43:08 PM »
It is interesting the impact the story is having.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-66472000
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Re: The leaning pub of Dudley
« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2023, 06:58:32 PM »
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Re: The leaning pub of Dudley
« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2023, 06:53:52 AM »
This is tangentially relevant, planning-permission-wise: fortunately, this one was a lot easier to reverse. Seems to me that retrospective planning permission should be abolished, and developers etc. obliged to do things in the correct order - permission first - or face the consequences, including reversing the illegal work where possible.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/aug/14/roads-agency-starts-to-undo-its-vandalism-of-victorian-bridge
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Re: The leaning pub of Dudley
« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2023, 12:29:23 PM »
Quote from: SteveH on August 14, 2023, 06:53:52 AM
This is tangentially relevant, planning-permission-wise: fortunately, this one was a lot easier to reverse. Seems to me that retrospective planning permission should be abolished, and developers etc. obliged to do things in the correct order - permission first - or face the consequences, including reversing the illegal work where possible.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/aug/14/roads-agency-starts-to-undo-its-vandalism-of-victorian-bridge

I don't agree. In circumstances where planning permission would have been granted, it's stupid to make people reverse the changes, reapply, get the permission and then redo the changes.
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Re: The leaning pub of Dudley
« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2023, 12:39:52 PM »
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I don't agree. In circumstances where planning permission would have been granted, it's stupid to make people reverse the changes, reapply, get the permission and then redo the changes.
Agree - the worry in this case and similar is that it does appear that NH is out of control, and has been for some time.
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Re: The leaning pub of Dudley
« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2023, 12:46:38 PM »
Quote from: jeremyp on August 14, 2023, 12:29:23 PM
I don't agree. In circumstances where planning permission would have been granted, it's stupid to make people reverse the changes, reapply, get the permission and then redo the changes.
Why can't they apply for permission in the first place?
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Re: The leaning pub of Dudley
« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2023, 12:52:43 PM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on August 14, 2023, 12:39:52 PM
Agree - the worry in this case and similar is that it does appear that NH is out of control, and has been for some time.

It's not obvious to me what National Highways sought to achieve with the bridge infill nonsense. Did they think it was going to fall down?
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Re: The leaning pub of Dudley
« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2023, 05:37:34 PM »
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Re: The leaning pub of Dudley
« Reply #20 on: September 28, 2023, 02:44:42 PM »
Two more people arrested

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-66951166

It doesn't say who they were but Carly Taylor - one of the owners - is the same age as the arrested woman.
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Re: The leaning pub of Dudley
« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2023, 03:18:32 PM »
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